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Beddows brothers
« on: Thursday 28 September 17 08:26 BST (UK) »
Looking for help regarding John and Samuel beddows.parents were  William and Ellen and John was born about 1882 and Samuel about 1884. John was in 1st battalion Manchester regiment and died  13 march 1917 and Samuel was in 1/7th battalion kings Liverpool regiment and died 8 September 1916. Any help greatly appreciated and thanks in advance

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Re: Beddows brothers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 September 17 09:23 BST (UK) »
Commonwealth War Graves detail for 2103 Pte John Beddows:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=779666.0;last_msg=6338427
For 3360 Pte Samuel Beddows:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/770694/beddows,-samuel/

More service information on each in due course.

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Re: Beddows brothers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 September 17 09:39 BST (UK) »
Aww thank you Max really appreciate your help again 😊

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Re: Beddows brothers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 September 17 09:57 BST (UK) »
John Beddows died of sickness while serving with his battalion in Mesopotamia in the 8th (Jullundur) Brigade of 3rd (Lahore) Division.  He has no known grave and is commemorated on the Basra Memorial. His detailed service record does not survive but those that are extant indicate that he was a regular soldier who had joined the Manchester Regiment in 1911 and served with them in India before the war, then in France from March 1915 and in Mesopotamia from the end of that year.  It is significant that more men died of sickness during this campaign than were killed as a result of enemy action.  The war diary for the period covering his time in Mesopotamia can be downloaded from the National Archives http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ff4e9428b5514ac3ab41155dcd9aa16a
He left the pay the army owed him, 10 15s 5d and his war gratuity of 12 to his mother Ellen. His service entitled him to the 1914/1915 Star, the British War and the Victory medals.

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Re: Beddows brothers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 September 17 14:02 BST (UK) »
Samuel Beddows is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial to the missing, many of whom fell in the battles of the Somme in 1916. On 6th September 1916, his battalion were in trenches between High Wood and Delville Wood, link here, the woods are easily identified. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=14&lat=50.0356&lon=2.7940&layers=101723165&right=BingHyb During the period in the line the trenches were under constant shell fire, he was among a number of men reported missing during that period.
His service record has survived and shows that he had joined the army in December 1914 having already served 10 years part time in the South Lancashire Militia from which he had been discharged following conviction of a civil offence of striking a police officer.  He served first in UK where his disciplinary record was not of the best, his conduct sheet showing a string of stoppages of pay, confinement to barracks and detention, including Field Punishment No 2 (placed in handcuffs or fetters) for  a number of short absences, threatening behaviour, drunkenness and insolence.  He went to France on 24 December 1915 where his only recorded lapse was a charge in May 1916 for being drunk in his billet for which he was awarded 28 days Field Punishment No 1 which involved being placed in restraints and attached to a fixed object for up to 3 days out of four.
He left the pay the army owed him, 9 13s and his war gratuity to his mother Ellen.  His service entitled him to the 1914-1915 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.

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Re: Beddows brothers
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 September 17 15:14 BST (UK) »
Oh wow that fascinating and he sounds a bit of bad boy lol. Thank you so much