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Re: Citizenship details in US Census 1900
« Reply #27 on: Friday 20 October 17 00:17 BST (UK) »
As Sandra mentioned above, Pennsylvania didn't require vital registration until 1906, so a birth record may not exist for Lillian and Winifred. 

The Pennsylvania death certificates available online only go up to 1964, so anything more recent would have to be ordered from the state.  http://www.health.pa.gov/MyRecords/Certificates/DeathCertificates/Pages/default.aspx#.Weku-KPD-Uk  Parents' names may also be available on marriage records, so if you have an idea of when/where Winifred and/or Lillian married, that may be another option. 

Another option (although it is more expensive) to get place of birth and parents' names is to order the original Social Security application for Winifred.  This blog post explains how to do it and what you would get - http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2016/01/06/ordering-the-ss-5-redux/

There was a death record for a Mary Fox that I just realized may be the one.  Mary Fox who died 1 Mar. 1927 in Philadelphia General Hospital.  It says she was widowed and her husband was James Fox.  The date of birth was originally written as Oct. 23, 1856, which is pretty close to the date on the 1900 census, and then the year was crossed out and 1864 was written in.  It says she was a laundress at Philadelphia General Hospital.  Born Ireland to Michael Hayes and Annie Robinson, both born Ireland.  She died of chronic alcoholism, which might account for her daughters winding up in an orphanage.  She was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery.  The informant was listed as J.F. McGillan (who was the undertaker) for Mrs. Charles Freund, 11413 Florian Ave., Cleveland, Ohio.  The next page has an affidavit from the undertaker about the age being incorrectly stated by the informant.

Looking for a Mrs. Charles Freund in Cleveland, I found this obituary for a Mary Freund in the Cleveland necrology file.  https://cpl.org/newsindex/showrecord/?record=506689&type=necrology&searchType=necrology  Is her sister Mrs. Markham in Philadelphia your Winifred?  If so, she would be the younger sister Mary that you heard about.

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Re: Citizenship details in US Census 1900
« Reply #28 on: Friday 20 October 17 00:25 BST (UK) »
Looking at marriage records for Charles Freund and Mary, one lists her name as Mary Fox Hayes - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XDGH-X3P  And another lists her as Mary A. Hayes, daughter of Walter Hayes and Mary Robinson, born Philadelphia, PA - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q74-P4Q

Definitely something confusing going on here.  Maybe they were her adoptive parents? 

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« Reply #29 on: Friday 20 October 17 07:42 BST (UK) »
Great discoveries.  So Mary was an older sister rather than a younger sister. Mary born about 1890 and passed away 1958 - husband Charles Freund passed away in 1966.

FIND A GRAVE

Charles Freund - passed 22 June 1966

Freund. Charles Freund, beloved husband of the late Mary, brother of the late Catherine A. Dinger of Maysville, Ky., and several other brothers and sisters, also deceased, late residence, 3868 W. 33d St.

Interment - Holy Cross Cemetery  Brook Park Cuyahoga County Ohio.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=freund&GSiman=1&GScid=41465&GRid=141039259&

Mary A Freund - 25 October 1958 -

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=freund&GSiman=1&GScid=41465&GRid=168984702&

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« Reply #30 on: Friday 20 October 17 09:14 BST (UK) »
Food for thought - Different spelling. Could this be a sister of Mary Robinson Fox born 1859 or 1864 - or just a coincidence with the names similar. Not quite the same as Michael Hayes and Annie Robinson -
Hannah Allen - born 18 th August 1859 England. Fathers Name William Heys and Mother Mary Roberson (as transcribed) -  PA - Hannah Nee Robinson Allen passed away  - 6 September 1909.
Burial 9 September 1909 - Greenwood Cemetery PA.  K of P
Hannah nee Robinson Allen resided 2012 Trenton Avenue. Philadelphia.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCS-7BX
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCS-7BD


Hannah would be Anne on this 1861 census - parents William Heys and Mary Robertson married Bradford registration district  in March 1854 - 9b24

1861 census - Bradford West Yorkshire.
RG 9 Piece 3324 Folio 8 Page 15

William Heys 38 Born Haslingden Lancashire and  Mary Heys   39
Lettice Heys 6
Anne Heys   1
Mary Heys   1 month.

There was a birth registered in 1859 for Hannah Heys
Hannah Heys - Robinson HEYS,
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in Bradford and North Bierley Yorkshire. Volume 09B

and 1861 for Mary A Heys

Mary Heys - Robinson
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in Bradford Yorkshire  Volume 09B  Page 85

Lettece Heys -  Robinson   
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in Bradford and North Bierley Yorkshire  Volume 09B

1871 census - Bradford Yorkshire
RG10 Piece 4464 Folio 70 Page 14

William Heys   48 Hannah Heys   43
Lettice Heys   16 Martha A Heys   13
Hannah Heys   11 Henry Heys   8
John R Heys   4  Born Burnley  Christopher Heys   2

John is John Robert Heys
John Robert Heys - Robinson -
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in Burnley  Volume 08E  Page 169

John Heys 30 March 1867 passed away 9 February 1938 Philadelphia PA. Son of Wm Heys and Mary Robinson - spouse Clara Heys - see below.
Burial Hillside Cemetery. Montgomery County PA.

Christopher Heys - Robinson -
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in Bradford Yorkshire   Volume 09B  Page 107

Henry Heys - Robinson
GRO Reference: 1862  J Quarter in Bradford Yorkshire  Volume 09B  Page 105

Martha Ann Heys - Robinson
GRO Reference: 1858  M Quarter in Bradford and North Bierley Yorkshire  Volume 09B

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« Reply #31 on: Friday 20 October 17 09:27 BST (UK) »
1900 census - Harrison Street Jamestown Ward 3, Chautauqua, New York.

John R Hays 33 Born Eng. Imm 1892. Married 1893. Cloth finisher.
Clara Hays   30 Born Eng. Imm 1892. Married 1893.
Elsie C Hays   5 Born NY.
Christopher H Hays   4 Born NY.

1910 census Third Street Philadelphia Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

John R Heys   42 and Clara Heys   40
Elsie Heys   16 Herbert Heys   14
May Heys   6 Born PA.
Ruth Heys   3 Born PA.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGW2-8R8

1920 Russell Street Philadelphia Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

John R Heys 52 Clara Heys   50
Christopher H Heys 24 Pipe Fitter for Plubing Company.
May Heys   16 Topper. Hosiery.
Ruth Heys   13

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNMK-XWR

Clara nee Saltenstall 29 July 1869  passed away 26 January 1937 -
Burial Hillside Cemetery. Montgomery County.
Husband John the informant - was John  Robinson Heys.

Clara Saltenstall appeared on a New York Passenger List - arriving 15 February 1892 on the City Of Berlin. Travelled with Mrs saltenstall aged 48 years, Joseph aged 19 years and Thomas 16 years. Going to Philadelphia.

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 20 October 17 09:42 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #33 on: Friday 20 October 17 09:47 BST (UK) »
Son of John Robinson Heys and Clara - Christopher Herbert Heys 1 October 1895 Jamstone, New Jersey passed away 1 March 1852
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - parents John Heys - Mother Clara D or Saltenstal

BKR1 US Navy

FIND A GRAVE

Burial Beverly National Cemetery  Beverly Burlington County New Jersey.
Plot: N, 457

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2514896&ref=acom

wife Sara Heys - 17 June 1895 -
Last Residence 19020 Bensalem, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=117032814&ref=acom

Daughter Clara R nee Heys Watkins - daughter of above -  born 26 January 1922 March 1980 - 19020 Bensalem, Bucks, Pennsylvania. (Clara married in 1946)

Daughter Anne May nee Heys Holt - daughter of above - born 29 January 1925 - passed away 10 September 2001 - Last Residence 19115 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Herbert R Heys born 28 June 1931 passed away 25 September 2012 -

FIND A GRAVE

Herbert US Army Korea.

Burial Washington Crossing National Cemetery  Newtown Bucks County Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=97914621&ref=acom

spouse Josephine Kupiec Heys 1931 - 2016

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=169021452

Obituary for Josephine

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/philly/obituary.aspx?pid=181213217

Obituary Herbert

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/herbert-heys-obituary?pid=1000000160150868&view=guestbook


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« Reply #34 on: Friday 20 October 17 10:07 BST (UK) »
Ruth nee Heys Huber - daughter of John and Clara - reply 31

Ruth born 2 August 1906 passed away 6 February 1994 - last residence Chalfont, 18914, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

husband Otto Augustus Huber - 17 September 1906 passed away 29 JULY 1974 - Doylestown, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

Ruith and Otto appear on the 1940 census - 19th Street Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Otto Huber   33
Ruth Huber   33
Warren O Huber   9  now deceased 17 FEB 2017 - Abington, Montgomery, Pennsylvania. Burial Hillside Cemetery.
Son "K" Huber 6

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQJP-G5G

Obituary for Warren O Huber -

http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/obituaries/intell/warren-o-huber/article_873eba42-a2f3-5d96-b05f-ea0db8b399a2.html

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« Reply #35 on: Friday 20 October 17 10:45 BST (UK) »
Did take a look at a Michael Hayes with a daughter Mary born 1864 and a John Fox as a boarder.

1880 census - Shilds Court Betuea 70 Ons & Second Street Philadelphia Pennsylvania

Michael Hayes   65
Maggie Hayes   22 Mary Hayes   16
David Hayes   14 Willie Hayes   7
Frank Hayes   4
John Fox Boarder - aged 20 years - works in factory.

However the death cert for David Hayes - 15 January 1923 - gave father Michael Hayes but mother as Mary Ahern.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWJ7-PDV

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