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Offline John Mace

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re my family names
« on: Wednesday 04 October 17 11:24 BST (UK) »
research interests are mace,murphy ,reeves,lee mostly from West Ham,london  mace family i believe name ws as some stage changed to mace from masse this has been a stumbling block in my research,looking for felix masse ...belgium or france
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 11:35 BST (UK) »
You "believe" or you have documentary proof of this person changing their name?

My advice is to follow the records of this individual person back not scatter searching for a surname otherwise your brick wall will continue and accept that EVERYONE  hits a brick wall and often means you are looking in the wrong area and/or have not followed the record trail correctly.
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 October 17 11:49 BST (UK) »
Quote from: John Mace on Wednesday 04 October 17 11:24 BST (UK)
research interests are mace,murphy ,reeves,lee mostly from West Ham,london  mace family i believe name ws as some stage changed to mace from masse this has been a stumbling block in my research,looking for felix masse ...belgium or france

If you are asking for help finding Felix please can you give a bit more information eg date of birth (or at least a guess) When and where do you last have him?
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 October 17 11:01 BST (UK) »
It is highly unlikely there was ever a document of official/legal name change (i.e. deed poll). It would not be in any way uncommon, nor was it illegal, for him to change the spelling of his name upon immigration or at some other point of his choosing, without any sort of official record.

But unless you definitely have him on a record as Masse, it wasn't necessarily a change at all, because there is also a French surname, Macé.
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 October 17 19:58 BST (UK) »
john felix mace born 16 0ct 1840 norton Folgate married Mary Hannah Pearce in 1863  his father on the wedding certificate is john felix maice an Engineer. i believe he was born in 1816 in middlesex ? he married Elizabeth Bacher or barker in 1840 she is on the 1851 census with john felix the son and his brother alfred wilhale in isleworth shis listed as a widow,she marries a richard bowden later,when did john felix  the father die and when did john felix the son die and what happened to the brother,i know my 2nd great gandmother was mary Hannah pearce went to the usa with most of her children but my 2nd great gandfather john felix Maice and my 3rd great grandfather i have no clue....please help
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 October 17 20:50 BST (UK) »
There could be a confusion of names here
Felix Maisse father Pierce Maisse
married
Elizabeth Bacher
1840 St Boltoph  Bishopsgate

Also whether this is of any help
John Felix Perre Muisse born 1840 father Felix, mother Elizabeth
baptised St Botolph 08/11/1840


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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
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Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 October 17 21:31 BST (UK) »
this may be of interest
Alien Arrivals 22 Aug 1836 arrived London
Felix Bizouard with Felix Maisse
from Bologne Royal Sovereign
First Arrival
Has 2 passports from french Government
signed by bearer Bizouard Felix Maisse Felix

maybe someone can make more sense of this?

Suz
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Re: re my family names
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 October 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
Can't find them on 1841 as yet.

Suz, I am sure that is connected to the  details I found

Louisa Maud
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: re my family names
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 October 17 21:58 BST (UK) »
think this is them in 1841
Church St Isleworth
Richard Munday? 35 Lighterman
Mary 40
Ann Murry 45
ELIZABETH MAISE 25
James Murry 14
JOHN MAISE 8months
Henry Atkins 4
all b in county
HO107 658 5 16 25

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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