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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 October 17 21:39 BST (UK) »
Hi bbart,
Thank you for posting the link for Hugh Allison death certificate. I was able to download it and found it very interesting.
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Allison 😊

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 October 17 01:49 BST (UK) »
Hi bbart,
I just received the Death certificate transcription for James Allison snr. This is the information from the death certificate:
Name: James Allison
Date of Death: 20 September 1868
Place: OAKEY CREEK, DISTRICT OF COONABARRABRAN
Occupation: NONE
Sex; Male
Age: 63
Place of birth: SCOTLAND
Time in Aust Colonies: 14 Years in NSW
Father: James Allison
Occupation: Farmer
Mother: Not stated
Place of marriage: SCOTLAND
Age at marriage: 19
Name of Spouse: Agnes MUIR
Children of marriage: 3 Males, 1 female living; 3 males, 1 female DECEASED
Informant; James Allison , Son, Oakey Creek
Cause of death: Influenza
Length of illness: 3 weeks
Medical attendant: NIL
Date last seen: NIL
Date of Burial: 22 Sept 1868
Place of Burial; OAKEY CREEK
Undertaker: Gavan Houston
Witnesses: D MacMaster, G MacMaster
Registered; 31 Dec 1868- Coonabarrabran
As you can see he was most likely born in 1805 or 1806 , which makes him about 12 years younger than Agnes. Agnes's maiden name was MAIR not MUIR which is important to note.
I hope I can now discover a bit more about James given this information or maybe I have come to the end of the road. There is still the mystery of the name MARSHALL which was given as his middle name on one of the family trees I found.. I thought it could be a clue, perhaps his mothers maiden name.
cheers
Allison :)

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 October 17 02:58 BST (UK) »
Well, it was definitely helpful!

Searching Scotlandspeople, there is only one James Allison born between 1804 and 1807 in Lanark, and his father was James, his mother Margaret McKenzie.  The date of 16/09/1804 is probably a baptism date.  The district is Old Monkland or Coatbridge, which I saw before when searching the Mair/Muir family.  Hard to say if it's a transcription error for the Mair vs Muir.

That still doesn't say if it was the Oakey Creek private cemetery.... there must be a distinction, as if you search the Ancestry catalogue for the Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007, and look up Jane Torrens Allison, you will see there is an Oakey Creek Cemetery, and an Oakey Creek Private Cemetery. (it won't let me link it)

I'll poke around a bit more with the alternate spelling of Mair, and with luck, a marriage will pop up!


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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 October 17 03:11 BST (UK) »
Hard to say if it's a transcription error for the Mair vs Muir.

That's feasible BB as an unclosed 'a' could look like a 'u'

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 October 17 04:00 BST (UK) »
That's feasible BB as an unclosed 'a' could look like a 'u'

Annie

Annie!  Hi!  I've missed you since that 240+ post mystery we worked on!

Allison, I still can't find a marriage, and I'm wondering if a "legal" marriage doesn't exist.  Given the age difference, it's possible that Agnes was married prior, and hubby took off.  Now she is stuck as already married, so had a "non Church"  marriage to James Allison.

There is a marriage of an Agnes Muir to a James Griffiths, 1815, in Old Monkland or Coatbridge, but I haven't tried to follow them to see if they are a different couple.   I had a few credits left at Scotlands people so I could see the image of the marriage, but it doesn't give ages or parents names, so it is of no value.

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 October 17 06:11 BST (UK) »
Hi bbart,
Thank you for all the trouble you have gone to. What you said about Agnes possibly being married before sounds very likely. 
I appreciate all the time and effort and expense you have put into the researching of this family.
I am quite happy to be content with information that everyone has posted ,so if there is nothing more to be found that is ok. It isn't easy finding information especially the right information.
Many thanks to you and all the people following this post.
Cheers
Allison  :)



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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 October 17 06:44 BST (UK) »
'Twas no problem at all!   Glad you found (most) of what you wanted to!  :)

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 October 17 21:56 BST (UK) »
Annie!  Hi!  I've missed you since that 240+ post mystery we worked on!

There is a marriage of an Agnes Muir to a James Griffiths, 1815, in Old Monkland or Coatbridge, but I had a few credits left at Scotlands people so I could see the image of the marriage, but it doesn't give ages or parents names, so it is of no value.

Yes BB...that was a journey & so happy for the OP to get positive results & leads  ;)

Marriages pre 1855 are very much just names.
Were there no witnesses named which may help?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James Allison born Strathaven, Lanarkshire
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 October 17 23:00 BST (UK) »
Marriages pre 1855 are very much just names.
Were there no witnesses named which may help?

No witnesses.... just a "he married her."  :-[

As the goal was reached to find where James Allison was buried, Allison has a new thread for the family in general on the Australian board here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=780678.0  if you want to keep digging!