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Offline jananne

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ONeills Tyrone
« on: Sunday 15 October 17 05:24 BST (UK) »
I have researched NLI Parish Clonoe  Tyrone and found a baptism for my ggrandfather  Thomas ONeill march 1834  and now have  a copy of the certificate sent to me Parents Thomas ONeill  Isabella Campbell  the first 2 children b Bernard ONeill  1830  and Jane Neil ( ONeill)  b 1831 mother is listed  as Ally Campbell where would I find more info about them , a Bernard m a Tersia ONeill1856  and listed   in  the 1900 census are the wrong ones have checked this out No info on Jane.     Isabella Campbell is a sponsor at a marriage  Parish of Clonoe 1823 ,she would have to be over the age of 16 and a Roman Catholic   her possible b date has to be around 1807 or less ;no info on her again ,Thomas her husband and father of the   3  children would have been b about 1800 or there abouts . NO marriage for them is on the Armagh Catholic Archives data base  covers Tyrone Louth Armagh  all this has been checked out  . Did the bride usually marry in her parish I  need help on this .Thomas came to NZ 1856 65th Regiment  land wars  stayed and had family here .

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Re: ONeills Tyrone
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 October 17 06:14 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat.
Marriages usually took place in bride's parish.
Are you assuming that Isabella Campbell who married Thomas O'Neill was the same Isabella who witnessed a marriage in 1823? There may have been more than 1 Isabella. Possibly related, possibly not.
Were Thomas O'Neill & Ally Campbell the parents of Bernard and Jane? The father may have been a different Thomas O'Neill.
BTW sponsor is for baptism. There was no age requirement for a sponsor at a Catholic baptism in earlier times. A sponsor had to fulfil certain religious criteria and be old enough to understand the significance of the ceremony. A child aged 10-16 may have been considered a suitable sponsor, all things considered.  Rules and customs varied according to country and time.

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Re: ONeills Tyrone
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 October 17 07:44 BST (UK) »
Yes they are the one and same person  not assuming  at all , we have that information ,but don't know what parish Isabella came from to find a marriage.
The Parents Thomas ONeill  Isabella  (Ally )Campbell are their 3 children   spellings  by the priests when putting entries did get things a bit wrong   the townland was Annaghboe   or Annaghmore Parish of Clonoe many ONeills 80 and Campbells 60 on a census at the time ., I have done much research not new to it . Ally   Isabella's   brother was a William Campbell , I wouild like to find this part of my family ggrandparents.

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Re: ONeills Tyrone
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 July 18 14:41 BST (UK) »
Stradie, I have sent you a pm.

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Re: ONeills Tyrone
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 18 10:23 BST (UK) »
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