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Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« on: Thursday 19 October 17 16:42 BST (UK) »
I would like to find out what happened to Archibald Brown and Margaret Sutherland who were married in Wilton, Roxburghshire in 1872. Archibald was born c1850 in Hawick, Roxburghshire and Margaret was born c1852 in Jedburgh, Roxburghshire. The last information I have found on them is from the 1881 Census where they are shown as living with 3 children at 16 Wilton Crescent, Wilton, Roxburghshire as follows:-
Archibald Brown  aged 31 Woolspinner
Margaret Brown  aged 28
George Brown     aged 12 Scholar
Jane Brown         aged 8 Scholar
Margaret             aged 7m
Can anyone help find out what happened to them after 1881?
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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:01 BST (UK) »
There's a death in Thornton, Fife but may not be the same Margaret?

Married women in Scotland are registered on death with both maiden & marital surnames.

SUTHERLAND MARGARET 63
1915
457/B 81 Thornton

BROWN MARGARET 63
1915
457/B 81 Thornton

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosinish
Thanks for your speedy response. Unfortunately the Margaret Sutherland/Brown who died in Thornton in 1915 is not our woman. I have checked it at ScotlandsPeople.
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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:16 BST (UK) »
1891

Archibald Brown   43 (Woolspinner)
Jame Brown 39
William Brown 17
Thomas Brown 15
Joseph Brown 10
John Brown 7
Archibald Brown   5
Euphemia Brown   3
William Twaitts   28

8 Greenbank St, Galashiels, Selkirkshire

Parish: Galashiels; ED: 2; Page: 30; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1891_381

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:28 BST (UK) »
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The family in Galashiels doesn't look very promising. None of Archibald's children in the 1881 Census are in the 1891 one and viceversa. Do you not agree?
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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:35 BST (UK) »
There are deaths showing in Amesbury Massachusetts for daughters Jane and Margaret (found by doing a general search on familysearch for surname Brown born Scotland and with parents Archibald Brown and Margaret Sutherland). Might therefore be worth searching US passenger lists and Massachusetts census records etc.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:46 BST (UK) »
None of Archibald's children in the 1881 Census are in the 1891 one and viceversa. Do you not agree?

Sorry, Should have added a wee note...

Yes but when I clicked on Jane's name a message 'Temporarily Unavailable' so I clicked back & copied the details as I couldn't tell what Jane's relationship was to Archibald.

I now see she's 'wife' & not another relation.

Had wondered if Margaret had disappeared & Archibald was still around but seems they all disappear.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 October 17 17:47 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Archibald in Amesbury,Mass.25 April 1886 of TB.Parents named as James and Jane and b Scotland 1850. Showing as married and a weaver.
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Archibald Brown b 1850 Hawick & Margaret Sutherland b 1852 Jedburgh
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 October 17 18:27 BST (UK) »
There is also a death for Annie J Brown born 1883 Amesbury -parents Archibald Brown and Margaret Sutherland (Death 27 Dec 1905).

Assuming this is the correct family they must have emigrated between 1881 and 1883.

Annie Brown can be found on the 1900 US census in Amesbury showing as step daughter of Joseph Morse. So looks like Margaret remarried. Sister Jane(Jeannie) is also in the household,emigration year given as 1882.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)