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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 October 17 15:56 BST (UK) »

Joseph, son of John and Betty Hand, BAKER, baptised 25 November 1759 - see attachment



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Another word for Baker is Baxter as well.
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #10 on: Friday 20 October 17 15:58 BST (UK) »
I was going to agree with Gadget that it could be a local spelling of Baker, but not necessarily indicating any different pronunciation, cf 'break'.

However, Joseph Wright's English Dialect Dictionary Vol.1 p.204 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j6q/) offers an interesting alternative. Apparently there's a Wiltshire word Beak meaning either to break up ground, or the tool with which you do it - it's described as a curved mattock.

I also checked the OED but didn't spot 'beaker' as an alternative for 'baker' (though I have come across surnames where 'ea' and 'a' seem to be interchangeable), so I'm really not sure either way on this one. BumbleB's extra evidence appeared while I was writing this, so now I'm wondering whether the occupation is Baker sometimes spelt Beaker, or Beaker sometimes spelt Baker. :-\
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #11 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:01 BST (UK) »
The entries I posted:

Sarah - John and Betty Hand
William - John and Betty Hand
John - John Hand and Betty his wife
Christian - John Hand and Betty his wife
Joseph - John Hand and Betty his wife
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #12 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:04 BST (UK) »
Think I'll now go with the breaker upper, Arthur - given that he's a labourer in the other entries.

Added - BB - could Beaven be the middle name of Betty?
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:12 BST (UK) »
Gadget - that is my thought as well.

I've found another couple of baptisms:

Betty, daughter of John and Betty Hand, 3 September 1755
John, son of John Hand and Betty his wife, 7 December 1766 - DL
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:18 BST (UK) »
Marriage - Calne March 9 1772 - John Hand and Betty Beaven
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #15 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:34 BST (UK) »
It doesn't say anything on the parish record, but just wondering whether Betty Beaven is John's second wife.   :-\

Two burials at Calne:

7 October 1755 - Betty wife of John Hand
6 October 1782 - Betty wife of John Hand, Labourer

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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #16 on: Friday 20 October 17 16:44 BST (UK) »
Could John Hand have had parents called John and Betty  :-\
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Re: Calne Occupation in 1774
« Reply #17 on: Friday 20 October 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
Sketchy timeline - all Calne - all baptisms are for children of John and Betty Hand, but with differing occupations (Labourer, Day Labourer, Beaker and Baker)

Baptism - Betty - 1755
Burial - Betty - wife of John - 1755
Baptism - John - 1758
Baptism - Joseph - 1759
Baptism - Christian - 1764
Baptism - John - 1768
Baptism - William - 1769
Marriage - John and Betty Beaven - 1772
Baptism - Betty Beaven - 1773
Baptism - Sarah - 1777
Burial - Betty, wife of John Hand, Labourer - 1782

I haven't checked burials at Calne, other than those noted above.


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