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Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« on: Wednesday 25 October 17 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am trying to get round a brick wall!
My direct ancestor is Jane Taylor, b. 1822 Kendal, Westmoreland. Married Robert Seed Preston 1844.
Father late John Taylor. Common name so having difficulty.
She appears on 1861 Census in Preston with sister, Hannah Crane b. 1834 Kendal.
Jane died 1861.
So I am trying to track down Hannah.
I find no 1851 Census return for a Hannah Taylor b Kendal or a Hannah Crane (though she would have been only 17 - young to be married?). And no marriages of a Taylor to a Crane.

Westmoreland parish records do not seem to be very accessible online.

Any ideas?

Many thanks

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 09:46 BST (UK) »
What stops hannah from being b a Seed?

Maria Hannah Seed. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5LN-FBW
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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Pauline.
Seed is Janes married name - maiden name Taylor.
Hannah is listed on 1861 Census as Hannah Crane, married, sister of Head of household, Jane.
So I assume her maiden name was also Taylor.

But maybe she had a different father?!
Sorry - itís complicated!
C

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:36 BST (UK) »
Simplest explanation would be that Hannah is the sister of Robert (Seed).

Have you looked at the original image to verify the transcription that you are working with?
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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:37 BST (UK) »
Robert Seed's father was John (deceased at time of marriage) according to marriage record, Maria Hannah Saad's father was Robert, so not Jane's sister in law. As Hannah b Kendal like Jane, I don't think she is related to the Seeds from Preston. As there is quite a difference in age between Jane and Hannah, I would suspect she might be a half sister.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 10:44 BST (UK) »
I hadnít thought of that.

No, probably not, unfortunately, Robert died in1860 leaving Jane a widow and head of house.
I also think I know all of his family, and there are no Hannahs that I can see.

Iíll have another look though.

Thanks Lizzie also. Maybe a different father. Iíll check for any Cranes marrying Hannahís!

Any thoughts on whether Hannah was a proper name, or perhaps a form of Anne?

C

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 11:37 BST (UK) »
There is a death of a Hannah Crane age 28 registered in Kendal district Q3 1861 10b 387. Could be her.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 12:15 BST (UK) »
Death notice for the Hannah who died in Kendal
At the house of her father Mr George Nicholson in U.... Street, Kendal on 27th inst (August 1861), Hannah, wife of Mr ..... Crane of Garstang, Churchtown aged 28 years. Unfortunately the name of street and her husband have got lost in the fold of the page, could be Richard??
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Missing from Census, marriage index - where to next?!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
1861 census, George Nicholson widower age 59, daughter Eleanor 16, son George 13 living in Union street, Kendal.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott