Harriet Bailey Aka Martina Ross

[louisa maud]

As a matter of interest I put in date of death on Ancestry, no other details,  946 wills came up, now if you have the time to trawl through that lot you might find something, as the moment we don't have any names

Just a thought

Louisa Maud

[littlesis 76]

Thanks Louise,I done that on Ancestry and it came up with 198 of them.
I have spent So many hours searching that looking through them won't make hurt and looking at the records with just that date only option.Let you know if find him
Thanks again

[louisa maud]

Yes, I put male in after, thought you might find Martina as a beneficiary, pity a name wasn't on  the  back of the photo, let that be lesson to us quickly get the photos out and write on the back, something I helped my mother to do before she died, not yet done all of my own as yet

There is provision to put death date in

No name, oh dear!

LM

[louisa maud]

Assuming from the photograph the dates are correct
this is my assumption
Granddad born circa 1848, mostly likely not married till 1868 unless Martina was illegitimate, perhaps the 1869 date of birth is more likely to be correct but we don't really know, do we?

This really has turned out to be a mystery but it still crosses my mind to have a search from time to time

Louisa Maud

[littlesis 76]

Thanks Louisa ,I keep leaving it for a morning or day and then go back.
It's just really hard when it looks like Martina was not her name and neither was Burwaw.
Am sure something I will find something soon and will find out her true identity.
Meanwhile I think her gt grandson is having a DNA to see if he is a Shave.The Shave family are very keen for him to do this  .At least we can know for sure if he was related to them or not
Thanks again Lisa

[louisa maud]

Wonder if she was  foreign and adopted?

LM

[littlesis 76]

Her gt grandson was always told the name Martina came from a rich Italian from they worked for..
I don't think that is exactly true but Martina the mother didn't end up owning a 11 room house through dressmaking and Benedict being a house painter.
Burwaw is not a Italian surname either !
And Felicitas and Murcia are Spanish names ?

[louisa maud]

Wonder if you could trace through to see who owned the 11 bedroomed house on electoral registers, just a suggestion

LM

[louisa maud]

1851 HO107; Piece: 1486; Folio: 400; Page: 9;
Jemima McCann aged 19 born Middx
Emily ? aged 16 born Kent ( John Joseph Ross born Kent on 1861)
on their own

Jemima born 1831 parents Thomas and Mary McCann, he a soldier living at Lower Sloane St at St Geo Hanover Square, baptism

also it looks as if there was  sister Caroline Foster McCann baptised 29/11/1829 and born 03/10/1829, same parents at St Mary Marylebone Road

Jemima married John Joseph Peter Ross

Looking again at the photo of grandfather he looks as if he was wearing medals, correct me if I wrong, would this be anything to do with the McCann family, can't find Thomas and Mary Ann McCann after the baptisms  of daughters although not checked deaths

Louisa Maud