Cannot find death ref

[lubylou]

I am searching for the reference to order the death certificate of my GGG Grandfather ISAAC ASTON. I have his burial from the parish register of Tipton St Martin Staffordshire 12th April 1846 age 55 which allowing for ages being rounded down on the 1841 census and the location of the burial plus he is stated as deceased on the marriage of his daughter in 1850 I am pretty sure I have the right one. The only Isaac Aston showing on GRO is age 19 [b1827] who I have found on the 1841 census living in Tipton. I have tried searching with all 3 name variations on GRO website, I have tried with just surname, both male and female but no result. Any help would be appreciated.

[josey]

I think you need to be prepared to acknowledge that the death may not have been registered - as I understand it, registration only became compulsory by an act of 1874. I do not know if churches would bury someone without a certificate in those days - but someone here will!!

[dawnsh]

I would contact the register office directly and ask them to check the register entry they hold.

http://www.dudley.gov.uk/resident/living/registration-service/

seems like they have problems with being overloaded by phone calls so send them an email with all the details you hold about the name, date of burial etc.

The amendment to civil registration in 1874 was for births, not deaths.

[stanmapstone]

I think you need to be prepared to acknowledge that the death may not have been registered - as I understand it, registration only became compulsory by an act of 1874. I do not know if churches would bury someone without a certificate in those days - but someone here will!!

That is not correct. Death Registration was compulsory under the 1836 Act.
If a anyone carried out a burial for which the Certificate ( that the Death has been duly registered) had not been made and delivered, as the 1836 and 1874 acts required, either by the Registrar or Coroner, they had to give notice  to the Registrar within Seven Days, if they did not they were liable to a fine not exceeding ten Pounds. See section XXVII of the 1836 Act http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/View?path=Browse/Legislation%20%28by%20date%29&active=yes&mno=4044

Stan

[alpinecottage]

I'm sure Stan is correct, but my 3x great grandmother Eleanor Boullen nee Hastings died as the result of an accident aged 65 and was buried on 22 October 1857 in Ardwick Cemetery, Manchester according to the cemetery burial records.  She was living nearby on 3 Ashton Road at the time.  I have looked high and low, as has my co-researcher, but neither of us can find either a registration of death or a report of the accident in the newspaper.  So I think it's fair to say that some deaths did "slip through the net".

BTW, if anyone else can find her, I'd be eternally grateful!

[josey]

The amendment to civil registration in 1874 was for births, not deaths.

That is not correct. Death Registration was compulsory under the 1836 Act.

I knew I'd stand corrected .

[BumbleB]

A long shot, but the mistake may be with the GRO and the age given.    Have you thought of contacting Dudley Register Office and asking the question of them? 

[stanmapstone]

  So I think it's fair to say that some deaths did "slip through the net".

Although  notice had to be given  to the Registrar within Seven Days this was not always complied with and led to some deaths not being registered.

Stan

[groom]

I'm sure Stan is correct, but my 3x great grandmother Eleanor Boullen nee Hastings died as the result of an accident aged 65 and was buried on 22 October 1857 in Ardwick Cemetery, Manchester according to the cemetery burial records.  She was living nearby on 3 Ashton Road at the time.  I have looked high and low, as has my co-researcher, but neither of us can find either a registration of death or a report of the accident in the newspaper.  So I think it's fair to say that some deaths did "slip through the net".

BTW, if anyone else can find her, I'd be eternally grateful!

If it was as a result of an accident could there have been an inquest, so a notice of burial was issued but the death not registered until after the verdict of the coroner?

If that was the case, could this be the death with the name transcribed or spelled incorrectly?

Deaths Mar 1858   
Bohan    Eleanor       
Manchester    8d   205

ADDED: Maybe not as her age is recorded as 62 on the GRO site (although if the name is wrong so could a 5 be recorded as a 2) Might be worth trying to find an Eleanor Bohan in the 1851 census to rule her out.