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Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« on: Monday 30 October 17 14:20 GMT (UK) »
I have hit a brick wall that I don't know if I can solve.  My 4 x great grandmother is Mary Pointer born 1799 (that is an estimate based on census records).  Pointer is her married surname not her maiden surname.  She was married to John Pointer who was born in approximately 1785 and died in 1859.  They has three children - James, Benjamin and Thomas.  They lived in and around Devon.

I am desperately trying to find out what Mary's maiden surname would've been, I just don't know if these records exist electronically.

Any guidance is welcome.
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 October 17 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Is she the Mary Pointer that also had 2 daughters?
If so mmn Harnett I believe but need to look a bit more.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 October 17 14:49 GMT (UK) »
OK don't think it's her.
In 1851 there are 4 children: Thomas 20; Elizabeth 11; Emma 9 & James 4 is this them?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 October 17 14:53 GMT (UK) »
I see John is with his Son James born c 1824 Cornwood on 1851 Census.

Could this be John/Mary in 1841 Census?

1841 Census
Cornwood
John Domter, 55, Ag Lab
Mary Domter, 40
Mary Domter, 14
Jeanette Domter, 9
Ann Domter 7
Elizabeth Domter, 2


1851 for this Family we have in Cornwood;
Mary Pointer, 52, Head, Mar, Charwoman, born Cornwood
Thomas Pointer, 20
Elizabeth Pointer, 11
Emma Pointer, 9
James Pointer, 4
William Hillson, 23
George Ford, 20
William Phillips, 17

1861 Mary is Widowed and living with Benjamin, her Son, born c 1829 Cornwood.

GRO Birth Index Reg for Emma;

PAINTER, EMMA, Mothers mn SHEPHEARD*****
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in PLYMPTON ST MARY UNION  Volume 09  Page 439

Marriage;
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10 July 1818, East Stonehouse, Devon, England
John POINTER to Mary Ann SHEPHERD

I was just a bit confused there for a while as to why John was with his Son and not Mary aand Family in 1851.
But he is down as Mar, so looks like the right one and may have just been staying overnight with James.

Trish :)
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 October 17 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Have I got this right jim1?

Brain not working that well tonight, off to bed.
Not sure wher people born Cornwood would be christened?

See you later
Trish :)
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 October 17 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Reg. Dist. is Plymton St. Mary. I can see an Emma registered there in 1843 mmn Shepheard which is what you have but not seeing any of the other children with same mmn.
The census looks right to me but still need the OP to confirm this is the right family.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 October 17 15:14 GMT (UK) »

Could this be John/Mary in 1841 Census?

1841 Census
Cornwood
John Domter, 55, Ag Lab
Mary Domter, 40
Mary Domter, 14
Jeanette Domter, 9
Ann Domter 7
Elizabeth Domter, 2


I think it's same family. Image looks like Pointer'

Although James is recorded as son, she seems a bit old to have a 4 year old.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 October 17 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Another son George bapt 1821 died 1840. Benjamin died 1846.
All children's baptisms on FindMyPast except James - the one age 4 in 1851. But John and Mary had a son James bapt in 1823 and he married in 1848 to Elizabeth Toms who was a  spinster but her father is George Kersewell. A Jane Pointer was one of the witnesses.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Assistance required for Mary Pointer (married surname)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 October 17 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Mary Pointer jnr was bapt as Mary Mumford Poynter on 29 Oct 1826
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott