Medlock

[Janetmb52]

Hi,
I wanted to know if you could help me with John Medlock.
There are two baptisms for the same John Medlock in the same area, Tempsford, Bedfordshire.

John #1 was baptized 28 October 1798-parents William Medlock and Elizabeth.
John #2 was baptized 29 November 1798-parents Nathaniel Medlock and Elizabeth.

The John Medlock that is in my family tree married Mary Aveling on 3 July 1820 in Stanground, Huntingdonshire. This marriage record does not show John's parents.


I am trying to figure out who are John Medlock's parents.
Any help would be appreciated. If you require more information, please let me know.
Thank you
Janetmb52

[emeltom]

The first thing I would look at are the names he gave his children in case he named one of his sons after his father.

Emeltom

[Janetmb52]

Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
The John I have in my tree named two of his sons John and William. His first son was named John.

The other John who I am questioning whose father is listed as Nathaniel Medlock married Sarah Griggs. This John never named any of his sons after his father, that I can find but he did name one of his sons John.

 

[emeltom]

Oh well, it was just a thought.

Emeltom

[bedfordshire boy]

Who were the witnesses to the Stanground marriage? And the same for the other John Medlock who married Sarah Griggs in Tempsford in 1825.

Your John seems by his census ages to have been born 1795-7, whereas the other John was younger, born c 1800 (which if correct would rule out him being baptised in 1798!). Have you checked the baptism entries to see if there's any further detail, such as ages?

[Janetmb52]

Thank you for your response.
I did find witnesses for John Medlock and Mary Aveling.

Church name   St John the Baptist
Register type   Parish Register
Register entry number   45
Marriage date   03 Jul 1820
Groom forename   John
Groom surname   MEADLOCK
Groom parish   Of this parish
Bride forename   Mary
Bride surname   AVELING
Bride condition   spinster
Bride parish   Of this parish
Witness   Robt THORN*
Witness   Joseph EYRE

I cannot find any for John Medlock and Sarah Griggs.
In regards to baptism records, there isn't a lot of information except date, place and parents.

[bedfordshire boy]

Pity!

My 3xg grandmother was Elizabeth Medlock from Edworth Beds hence my interest in the name . I now find I have Nathaniel Medlock in my tree, 3rd cousin 5 times removed, together with his son John. I didn't realise I had a connection to the Tempsford family. But I show John as marrying Sarah Smith in Sutton Beds on 11 Jun 1821. I haven't checked the entry to see if John's parish of residence was Tempsford but in 1851 Sarah's birthplace was Sutton. But Sarah Griggs was also baptised in Sutton in 1806, so I wonder if Sarah Smith died. Perhaps John was a widower when he married Sarah Griggs.

But none of this helps us in splitting the two Johns baptised a month apart in 1798.

Still working on it.

David

If your John was born 1795/7 then I don't think he would have been the son of Nathaniel who didn't marry until Dec 1797. But this is more of a gut feeling, and isn't proof!

[Janetmb52]

Hi David,
Thank you for taking an interest in my questions.

I agree with you that John Medlock's father is not Nathaniel in my family tree.

I show both John Medlocks ended up in Huntingdonshire and died in Huntingdonshire.
John Medlock and Mary Aveling in Stanground and John and Sarah Griggs in Brampton.

[bedfordshire boy]

There's a marriage in Tempsford on  22 Jan 1798 between William Medlock of Papworth St Agnes, Cambs, and Elizabeth Key, who look favourites to have been the parents of John baptised in Tempsford on 28 Oct 1798. Tempsford PR transcript up to 1812 is at https://ia801301.us.archive.org/7/items/bedfordshirepari19bedf/bedfordshirepari19bedf.pdf.

But I can't work out, yet, who this William might have been, or what happened to him. Perhaps he moved to Hunts.

David

Just found your tree on Ancestry to which I've added a couple of comments. I see that you've established that the family moved to Stanground at some time between John's 1798 baptism in Tempsford and the baptism of the next child in Stanground in 1801. William wasn't the one born 1780 in Tempsford, who married Elizabeth Bird in Tempsford in 1805 and who was buried age 41 in Tempsford in 1821. So I know who your William wasn't but I don't know who he was!