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1950 or 1952 Marriage
« on: Tuesday 07 November 17 12:55 GMT (UK) »
I have two marriage records that appear to be for the same people in the same district but are two years apart.
Charles H G Elphick married Acreman / Delahunt in Tonbridge Q1 1950 Ref 5b page 1645
Charles H G Elphick married Acreman / Delahunt in Tonbridge Q2 1952 Ref 5b page 1673
Then to stretch matters a bit further, on the 1950 record there is also -
George Elphick married Acreman / Delahunt in Tonbridge Q1 1950 Ref 5b page 1645
I have no problems with any of the people on these records and can see that the Charles H G Elphick and George Elphick on the 1950 record are probably the same person, it is just the I am confused with the same names being recorded two years apart and then which is the correct date to use in the tree I am working on - GedB

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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Why not order both marriage certificates?

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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:19 GMT (UK) »
It looks as if George was married previously and that wife didn't die until 1999? Also the fact that his second wife is recorded under two names also suggests that she may either been married or calling herself another name. Is it possible that it was discovered that the first marriage wasn't legal for some reason and so they had to remarry? I think for curiosity's sake at least you may have to do as Ray suggests and get both certificates.
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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:20 GMT (UK) »
I would agree with Ray.  ;D

Was he in the forces and did not have 'permission' to marry.    Were either of them still legally married when the first marriage took place.
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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:32 GMT (UK) »
All very fair points, I cannot see that any information on the second certificate would tell me why they needed to remarry and it also wouldn’t tell me why there are two different transcriptions for the first marriage but that does seem to be the way forward. One further question, I believe that both of them were on their second marriage so if their 1950 marriage was annulled for some reason where would that information be held.
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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:44 GMT (UK) »
it also wouldn’t tell me why there are two different transcriptions for the first marriage

The GRO has indexed the marriage twice in 1950 to take into account both surnames for Kathleen M (Acreman & Delahunt) There will only be one certificate which will probably show her surname as Delahunt formerly Acreman (or similar)

Kathleen M Acreman married Francis J Delahunt in 1942.
ADDED he possibly remarried in 1947
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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 13:59 GMT (UK) »
The marriage has actually been transcribed four times in 1950, twice as you have suggested with Charles H G Elphick & Kathleen Acreman / Delahunt and then twice more under George Elphick & Kathleen Acreman / Delahunt but all have the same reference number so all are linked - GedB

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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I think you can ask records of a divorce, but it isn't cheap.

https://www.gov.uk/copy-decree-absolute-final-order
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Re: 1950 or 1952 Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that Groom, it is certainly looking like certificates first then divorce records if I am to take this any further - GedB