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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 23:17 GMT (UK) »
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)  1894
COLE George Montague of Bourke New South Wales journalist died 12 Dec 1885 at the hospital Bourke     Administration London 6 March to Mary Duncan (wife of Andrew Henry Farrell Duncan)  Effects £100

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Who was Mary DUNCAN?

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article29873237
The Advertiser  6 Nov 1931
NEWS has been received in Adelaide of the death in Pretoria of Mr.Andrew Henry Farrell Duncan, a former surveyor-General of Rhodesia. He was a son of Dr. Duncan, who was the first resident medical officer at Port Adelaide.
As a boy he joined the navy and. travelled the world over. After his navy days he took up surveying, and worked in many parts of South Africa. He was a close friend of Dr. Jameson. In later years life settled near Pretoria, where he had many friends. Mr. Duncan proved himself a credit to his native land, and to every country in which he worked.
He was a modest retiring man. Miss Annie J. Duncan, of North Adelaide, is a sister, and the sole survivor of this old pioneer family.

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 23:58 GMT (UK) »

From Familysearch images

Andrew Henry Farrell DUNCAN 28, bachelor, retired RN, Lieutenant, married Mary COLE, 27, spinster  after Banns at St John's Church, Wynberg, Capetown on 17th January 1884.

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 November 17 00:02 GMT (UK) »

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George Montagu COLE, bachelor, Gentleman, of age, married Matilda Freeland HOGBEN, spinster, minor, at Port Elizabeth on 28th April 1852.

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 November 17 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Getting away from George, here's the birth notice for Andrew Henry Farrell DUNCAN, born 31 May 1855 to Handasyde DUNCAN MD and his wife at Port Adelaide.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/49303134?
Birth also noted in Australian Birth Index. South Australia Vol 5, p170.  Mother's name given as Ann WILLIAMS

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 16 November 17 01:36 GMT (UK) »
barryd, who is Mary DUNCAN now established as nee COLE?

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 16 November 17 02:01 GMT (UK) »
The Royal Navy records confirm the birth date of Andrew Henry Farrell Duncan as 31 May 1855.

There are published records of sisters Mae Cole born 1860 and a Gertrude Wynne Cole born 10 August 1862 (where?). I believe that both were born in South Africa but no evidence yet. To anticipate the question where was Gertrude in 1891, 1901 and 1911 (Census) she was in British Guiana with her new husband Bernard Vidal Shaw. She may be on the 1921 Census but not released yet.   

Is Mae and Mary the same ???

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16 November 17 03:09 GMT (UK) »
So Mary DUNCAN nee COLE is possibly George Montagu COLE's who died in 1885, daughter?  Surely there has to be a connection for her to be noted on his probate papers.

 I think the South Australian birth registration also confirms the same man is her husband ;).

I didn't bother researching any further until you responded. 

From my own resource not an online database.  Andrew was the eldest of four chn from his father's second marriage. Only he and two sisters were living when their mother died in 1861.

Birth registration
DUNCAN Andrew Henry Farrell
31 May 1855
Father Handasyde     Mother Ann WILLIAMS
At Port Adelaide    District Code Ade  5/178

Would be interesting to browse through these papers at the National Library of Australia.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/version/217098026

I'll leave you to search for further information on TROVE for Handasyde DUNCAN if you are interested.

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 November 17 03:14 GMT (UK) »
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Many thanks for the George Montagu Cole Marriage. That gives me the first  proof that George Montagu Cole was actually in South Africa. Daughter Gertrude Wynne was married there, divorced there but no actual proof yet that she was born there. With her parents married there it is reasonable to think she WAS born there.

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Re: George Montague Cole died in Australia - and that is it !
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 November 17 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

http://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/settlerbrowsemarrs.php?name=COLE

Go down until you find George Montagu Cole then open up the record link and goto record 60 for the image.

Gerry