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Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi

using the 6 PDF BMD certificate offer on at the moment I crossed several off my 'wanted list'. One was the death certificate of John Gibson 1847 - 1899. Having obtained it two things of interest where I would appreciate some help.

1. Occupation Lorry driver?? in 1899?? Anyone come across this before. Driver was on his daughters wedding bands the year before but I assumed horses.

2. (see picture) there was an inquest after his death (in Hulme Manchester) does anyone know if the papers to these inquests are averrable and where I might get one from?

as always appreciative of anyones help.

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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Lorries (sometimes referred to as lurries) were around well before motor vehicles.

Think of a flat-bed horse-drawn cart.

My great grandfather was a lurry driver when he married in 1891.

The use of driver hints that he worked for someone else.
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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:14 GMT (UK) »

There is information here from National Archives website concerning inquests  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l24/ 

Not all survive, many have been destroyed.
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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks :)  :)

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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 18:40 GMT (UK) »
You might find a report in a local newspaper.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 November 17 00:20 GMT (UK) »
Prior to the petrol/diesel internal combustion engine vehicles, were the steam powered vehicles and I suspect he may have driven one of those.

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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 November 17 01:30 GMT (UK) »
As has been suggested, detailed records of inquests usually survive only in local newspaper reports. Obviously there's no guarantee this man's inquest would feature. Official records consist of basic information such as name/verdict, in my experience.

I think you'd be unlikely to get much more information than is stated on the death certificate to be honest.
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Re: Interesting death - Inquest papers?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 November 17 06:53 GMT (UK) »
The inquest file (1902 London) that I have in my records contains, among other items, a list of those who served on the jury, a report from the doctor who examined the deceased (it was a  sudden death), a handwritten account by his sister (he lived with her and her family) even paperwork from those who were unable to serve on the jury. 
The most surprising item was the handwritten account from his sister....I was not expecting to find that!

I've looked for two other inquest files or newspaper reports but only found a newspaper account (1914).
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 November 17 09:22 GMT (UK) »
If the papers survive they will most probably be a the local archives, many though do not survive.

Some local newspapers routinely report all inquests but with this being Manchester there might have been too many to include. A newspaper article my be found if the death was considered newsworthy enough.
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