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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 30 November 17 20:25 GMT (UK) »

Well, I now have the pdf copy of Louis CODLING's Birth Certificate. It confirms the following:

Birth Date: 2nd November 1881

Place: Marylebone Workhouse

Name: Louis

Name and Surname of Father: None was given

Name and Maiden Name of Mother: Elizabeth Codling (Servant)

Signature, Description & Residence of Informant:
E Codling (Mother)
15 Victoria Place
Salisbury Street
Marylebone

When Registered: 11th November 1881

Registrar: Henry G Times

The certificate confirms that Lizzie's given name was actually Elizabeth, which I guess is helpful in trying to look for her elsewhere, assuming of course that she didn't stay in the Workhouse.

I thought that those of you who have followed this thread and were so kind to help would like to know what the Birth Certificate actually said


Thank you for giving us an update, so the baptism record I posted appears to be the correct Louis even though his surname was entered as Cotton on his baptism record - edit although surname might read COLTON


I've just found this baptism only posting due to their first names, place & year of birth - have not yet checked for them on any censuses

Louis COTTON born 2nd Nov 1881
Baptism 23 Nov 1881 St Marylebone, Westminster, England
Mother:   Elizabeth COTTON abode workhouse
from London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916

Have looked for a corresponding birth entry on FreeBMD & GRO Indexes for
 Dec qtr.1881 Marylebone but I can't see one for this surname  ???

The only one that seems to correspond is the one you have mentioned  :-\

Louis CODLING     -  (mmn left blank)   
1881  D Quarter in ST. MARYLEBONE Volume 01A  Page 559



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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #37 on: Friday 01 December 17 09:50 GMT (UK) »

As far as I am aware, the first three children were all registered as BENOIT, it was only after the name change, as you have indicated, that the final two children were registered from birth as NUTKINS. The children were:

Henry Louis BENOIT (1902-1903)

Harold John BENOIT (1904-1988)

Gladys Maude BENOIT (1908-1951)

Children born after the name-change in 1909 were given the name NUTKINS from birth, namely:

Elsie Blanche NUTKINS (1910-1943)

Stanley Frederick NUTKINS (1912-1992)


Not sure if you have this info. so posting just in case......

 9 Mar 1902 St Mary Bryanston Sq Westminster
Henry Louis Benoit born 18 January 1902
Parents Louis, glass cutter & Maud Catherine
abode 76 Seymour Place

7th Dec 1904 St Marylebone St Matthew, Westminster
Harold John Benoit, born 24th Oct 1904
parents Harry Lewis, glass cutter & Maud Catherine
abode 44 Linhope St

17 May 1908 St Matthew, St Marylebone Westminster
Gladys Maude Benoit born 3rd April
 parents Louis, caretaker & Maude Catharina
abode 44 Linhope Street

surname transcribed as Nuttings

4th Sept 1910 St Matthew, St Marylebone
Elsie Blanche Nutkins born 6 Aug 1910
Parents Harry, school keeper & Catherine Maude
abode 44 Linhope St Dorcet Sq

didn't spot a baptism for Stanley Frederick Nutkins

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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #38 on: Friday 01 December 17 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Marylebone workhouse creed register has
admitted 28 Oct 1881
Elizabeth Codling
age 19
admitted from 15 Victoria Place
sent to - Lying in
religious creed - Church
informant - ditto (Himself)

and
Louis Codling
born 2 Nov 1881
Lying in
religious creed - Church
informant - mother

Both discharged 14 Dec 1881

Sadly Elizabeth does not seem to feature in the exams book.

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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #39 on: Friday 01 December 17 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you have this info. so posting just in case......

didn't spot a baptism for Stanley Frederick Nutkins

Hello once again,

Thanks again for your interest in following this up. As it happens I did already have most of the additional detail you gave, but, like you, I still haven't found a baptism for Stanley Frederick NUTKINS.

Best wishes,

Alan
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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 02 December 17 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you have this info. so posting just in case......

didn't spot a baptism for Stanley Frederick Nutkins

Hello once again,

Thanks again for your interest in following this up. As it happens I did already have most of the additional detail you gave, but, like you, I still haven't found a baptism for Stanley Frederick NUTKINS.

Best wishes,

Alan
Ancestry has two pages missing from St Matthew, Marylebone baptism records - pages 82 and 83 which would be between 29 Dec 1912 and 10 Mar 1913

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These pages wouldn't be a double sided leaf lost from the book, because p82 would be on the back of p 81 and p83 would be on the front side of p 84. Lokk like two pages turned when the document was scanned
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Re: On the trail of Lizzie CODLING, probably from Wangford District
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 02 December 17 14:54 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry has two pages missing from St Matthew, Marylebone baptism records - pages 82 and 83 which would be between 29 Dec 1912 and 10 Mar 1913

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These pages wouldn't be a double sided leaf lost from the book because p82 would be on the back of p 81 and p83 would be on the front side of p 84. Look like two pages turned when the document was scanned

I see that the London Metropolitan Archives holds the Baptismal Registers for St Matthews Church, in Marylebone. Sadly they are not available directly from the LMA site. I'm in Derbyshire, so maybe one day.................

Is what you found on Ancestry? Thanks for trying though!

Best wishes,

Alan
FLINT, ALLEN, SHIPLEY, SIMS, RADFORD, BUNTING, ALLSOP