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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #18 on: Monday 11 December 17 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello again, I am posting the marriage cert for my relative, possible great grandfather, Edward/Edwin Hall.
Have previously looked for Edward not Edwin but take a look at the marriage cert where it seems he has signed himself as Edwin?
Where to from here, have failed to find him in NZ other than on marriage cert and his sons birth cert in 1880 where his name is listed as Edward Waters HALL a butcher Devon aged 30.
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 00:43 GMT (UK) »
It does look like he signed his name Edwin, at least the dot above suggests an "i" doesn't it.

There is another Edwin HALL in Devon also born c 1847, with parents James and Sarah, though I think I can follow him through ending up a coal miner in Wales.

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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 00:56 GMT (UK) »
There is an Edwin HALL aged 65 who died in NZ on 3 Dec 1912 (1912/7276) - the right age for your man. Though I can't see an death notice or obit unfortunately.

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps you could post on the NZ board for more sightings of Edwin/Edward. Knowledgeable people there may be able to find his arrival and other details about him?


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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 05:37 GMT (UK) »
There is an Edwin HALL aged 14 born Copplestone (very near Crediton, where the family Inn was) at a boarding school at Shaldon, Newton Abbot in 1861. John W PRIDEAUX is the head, with 19 students.

RG09/1401 / 120 page 5

Anyone know if there would be records for this boarding school available - wanting to find the names of parents of Edwin HALL aged 14 at school if possible please?
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 05:39 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps you could post on the NZ board for more sightings of Edwin/Edward. Knowledgeable people there may be able to find his arrival and other details about him?

Thankyou for all your help-I will try and follow up the death you told me of although i think i looked at this years ago. I know that he was in NZ four years prior to his marriage in 1877.
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 10:16 GMT (UK) »
I see from another thread that spades found the intention to marry for Edwin/Edward and Mary.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=81510.msg342075#msg342075

NZ Intention to Marry Notice.
National  Library, Wellington.
Ref: BDM 20/22 1877 Hokitika p.561 No. 719 Microfiche R3594.
Notice dated 29 January 1877: Mary MCCARTHY, widow, a Servant aged 32 years, dwelling at Hokitika, length of residence 4 years, to marry Edward (Edwin) HALL, bachelor, a Butcher aged 27 years, dwelling at Hokitika, length of residence 4 months, at St Mary’s Church, Hokitika.
Certificate dated 7 February 1877. Reverend P.(A.?) MARTIN.

This says he was in residence 4 months.

I'm wondering what evidence you have that he did indeed come from Devon?

 
There is an Edwin HALL aged 14 born Copplestone (very near Crediton, where the family Inn was) at a boarding school at Shaldon, Newton Abbot in 1861. John W PRIDEAUX is the head, with 19 students.

RG09/1401 / 120 page 5

Anyone know if there would be records for this boarding school available - wanting to find the names of parents of Edwin HALL aged 14 at school if possible please?

I think it's a pretty good match for the Edwin, son of Samuel and Joanne!  ;)

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 10:39 GMT (UK) »
There is an Edwin HALL aged 65 who died in NZ on 3 Dec 1912 (1912/7276) - the right age for your man. Though I can't see an death notice or obit unfortunately.

I have emailed my library to see where this death occurred, should hear tomorrow.

Edward/Edwin born Devon as shown on his marriage cert in 1877.

I see on UK BDM there is an Edward Hall born Tiverton June qtr 1850 - I put a note on there years ago but nothing eventuated. Does he show up in the 1851 or 1861 census by any chance?



Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, yes I should have realised it said Devon on the marriage cert.  :-[

According to the GRO, there is an Edward HILL registered Sep qtr 1850 Tiverton (10/256) mother's maiden name SALTER. There is also an Edward HALE registered Jun qtr 1850 Tiverton (10/265) mmn TOOZE.

Will look for them ...