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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Here is the article about his death. (I'm never quite sure about copyright, so I've transcribed it)

"Crediton.
Fatal Accident – On Friday night last, a lamentable accident caused the death of Mr Samuel Hall, a respectable innkeeper of Coplestone. It appears that the deceased rode to the farm of Mr Bodley, which he left again about eight o’clock, and proceeded on his way home. A short distance from Mr Bodley’s house, a bridge with a very low parapet crosses the river Yeo, - over this bridge a boy was crossing about ten o’clock, and heard a great deal of plunging in the water, and upon his alarming some people who lived near, the horse which Mr H had ridden was discovered. All doubt as to the fate of the unfortunate man had now vanished, and every exertion was made to recover the body, but in vain, - till on Monday afternoon, when it was discovered in a deep hole of the river some 150 yards from the bridge. It is supposed that the horse (which was blind) became frightened, and plunged with his rider over the parapet, which, we believe, is not a yard high. Mr Hall leaves a widow and eight children to lament his untimely death. The bridge, we understand, is to be indicted at the ensuing assizes, on the principal of “when the steed is gone, shut the stable door.” There are many such bridges in the county, each of which, we hope, will not require a fatal accident to ensure its being rendered safe for travellers."

Exeter and Plymouth Gazette (Exeter, England), Saturday, March 4, 1848, Vol. LIX, Issue 2930, p.7.

And the sale of property after his death:
"Crediton
To be let by tender, for a term of seven years from Lady Day next.
Lot 1 – all that excellent and well established INN and POSTING HOUSE called the Copplestone Inn, situate near Copplestone, in the parish and about 4 miles from the town of Crediton, on the Turnpike road between Exeter and Barnstaple, with a large Malthouse, good Stabling, and about thirty Acres of Land (of which about four Acres are Garden and Orchard) adjoining the said Inn, for many years in the occupation of the late Mr Saml Hall, and now of Mrs Joanna Hall, his widow.
Lot 2 – all that MESSUAGE and FARM called HIGHER ELSTON, comprising a Dwelling House, with suitable Outbuildings and about thirty four acres of Orchard, Arable, Meadow and Pasture Land, situate in the said parish of Crediton, and recently also in the occupation of the said SAMUEL HALL deceased.
The Taker will be required to discharge all Rates and Taxes, including the Tithe Commutation Rent Charge, and to do the usual Tenants repairs.
Separate Tenders in writing for Taking the Property as comprised in the above Lots may be sent on or before the 31st day of March instant to the office of Mr Pring in Crediton.
To view the respective Lots apply at the Copplestone Inn aforesaid, and any further information may be obtained on application to Mr John HALL, High street, or to Mr Pring, Solicitor, Crediton.
Dated 13 March, 1848."

Exeter and Plymouth Gazette (Exeter, England), Saturday, March 18, 1848, Vol. LIX, Issue 2938, p.1.

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 10:30 GMT (UK) »
There are quite a few mentions of Samuel HALL in the newspapers. One of his ploughmen, Samuel BICKNELL was often successful in the Crediton Ploughing Match - 2nd in 1836, a prize in 1840, 5th place in 1841, a prize in 1842. He also attended the Sandford Ploughing Match in 1841.

He began at the Copplestone Inn in 1843 - this advertisement appeared in September

"Copplestone Inn, on the new Road from Exeter and Crediton to the North of Devon.
Samuel Hall respectively begs leave to acquaint the Nobility, Gentry, Clergy, and the Public in general, that he intends on the 29th instant, entering on the above-mentioned Inn, his Property, and immediately to fit up the same in the most comfortable manner; and he confidently hopes that by keeping a well supplied Larder; Liquors of the best description; good Beds well aired; good Horses and Carriages, with careful drivers; by unremitting attention to the comforts of his guests; and by very moderate charges, he shall succeed in obtaining a considerable share of the patronage of persons travelling on the above line of road, and which it will be as well his constant desire and study to merit, as by his great gratitude to evince or acknowledge.
N.B. A rest and keep for Catlle of every description, at moderate charges, may always be obtained on the Farm belonging and contigious to the above establishment.
Copplestone, Crediton, September 25, 1843."

Exeter and Plymouth Gazette, Saturday, September 30, 1843, Vol. LIII, Issue 2699, p.1.

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Samuel's son also had an accident in February 1846, also reported in the news:

"Tiverton – accident – On Friday last, as the “Rival” coach to Barnstaple was leaving the Three Tuns, a youth named Samuel Hall (eldest son of Mr S Hall of the Copplestone Inn, Crediton) made an unsuccessful attempt to get up behind, but fell off. Irritated at this he ran after the coach, and made another attempt, but his leg getting in between the spokes of the wheel was broken just above the ancle [sic]. Had not the coachman stopped instantaneously he must have been killed on the spot. Mr John Beedle, surgeon, was called to his assistance immediately, and he is going on well.”

Western Times, Saturday, February 14, 1846, Vol. XVIII, Issue 927, p.5.

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 11:03 GMT (UK) »
There are various mentions of "Elston Farm" Crediton in newspapers that I can see, the first (in papers I have access to) is in 1774 where it is for sale, though let to John NORRITH (?) for 21 years from 1767.
Of more interest to you though may be that in 1827 there was a large sale of stock and furniture at Lower Elston Farm "the property of the late Mr John Hall".

Modified to add: and if you google "Elston Farm Crediton", there are quite a few hits.  ;)


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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 23:56 GMT (UK) »
Great reading, thanks so much for this.
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 01:57 GMT (UK) »
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101443723

A map showing Copplestone and Higher Elston
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 December 17 09:05 GMT (UK) »
1851 census shows Johanna Hall as head and several children at home, I am interested in the son Edwin aged 4. A scholar .

I havent found him in other census.
Maybe he is at a boarding school?

In 1861 Johanna is home alone.

Is anyone able to help me trace Edwin please?
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 December 17 09:52 GMT (UK) »
There is an Edwin HALL aged 14 born Copplestone (very near Crediton, where the family Inn was) at a boarding school at Shaldon, Newton Abbot in 1861. John W PRIDEAUX is the head, with 19 students.

RG09/1401 / 120 page 5


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« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 December 17 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Edwin is also mentioned in the news, in 1857
Western Times, Saturday, June 20, 1857, Vol. XXX, Issue 1503, p.7.

(Perhaps if he was getting into trouble, may have been a reason to send him away to school?)