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Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« on: Friday 08 December 17 02:44 GMT (UK) »
I can't confirm the birth of Elizabeth Jane Lishman but she married Richard Samuel Clark JAS 1848 in Eton Bucks 6/545 (Ancestry) and died Mar quarter 1850 in Eton 6/266 (FreeBMD). I suspect she died in or after childbirth. I have identified several possible children all born in Eton:
Mar 1849 - Sarah Ann;6/416, twins? Hannah & William 6/423;
June 1849 - Harriet 6/386;William 6/390;
Sept 1849 - Elizabeth 6/348;
Mar 1850 - male 6/385 and Frederick 6/378.
Is there someway to find out which if any, were children of Richard Samuel please?
Thanks for your help

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 17 03:52 GMT (UK) »
The GRO index can now be searched using the mother's maiden name.
It is free to search but you have to join up. You can google it.
I did a quick search 1849 +/- 2 years for Clark/Clarke using the mother's maiden name Lishman but no results. I then left out the mmn but the results didn't come up with a mmn looking anything like Lishman.
Elizabeth Jane wasn't previously married was she?

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 17 04:07 GMT (UK) »
From the GRO death index
Elizabeth Jane Clark age 36 March 1/4 1850 vol 6 page 266 Eton
So born c1814.

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 17 06:42 GMT (UK) »
There was an Elizabeth Jane Lishman baptised 31 October 1813 to James and Elizabeth at Colnbrook Buckinghamshire.

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 17 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol,

Do you have Richard on the 1851 census? Are there any children with him?

Jo  :)
Puplett, Sonnex, Lott, Dunkiss, Hart - London area.
Hudson, Jenner, Dedman - Sussex
Leach, Hopkins, Saunders - Wales
Leach, Lipscombe - Hampshire
Sipthorpe - Lancashire
Walters - Cornawall & Australia
Kingshott, Matheson, Pitt, McDonald, Keogh - Australia.

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 17 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol,

Do you have Richard on the 1851 census? Are there any children with him?

Jo  :)

He looks likely to be the widowed Richard Clark (a carpenter), 27 b Wraysbury, in Wraysbury with sister Ellen in 1851 (no children). HO107/1718/243/19.

Later records show him as Richard Samuel Clark.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 17 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Oh you wonderful people I can't keep up with the replies. :) Yay for those results thank you very much.
I am just going thru all the census results and managed to find on Family Search, 1851 and yes that info is correct. Richard is with his sister Ellen.
I've also found him in 1841 age 18-22, with his father Richard, mother Esther brother George 13 and Ellen 10 so that is the family. F and M had died by 1851. Names follow through the family!
Children of Elizabeth Jane: I posted this below 2 days ago. I suspect she died in or after childbirth. I have identified several possible children all born in Eton:
Mar 1849 - Sarah Ann;6/416, twins? Hannah & William 6/423;
June 1849 - Harriet 6/386;William 6/390;
Sept 1849 - Elizabeth 6/348;
Mar 1850 - male 6/385 and Frederick 6/378.
Is there someway to find out which if any, were children of Richard Samuel please?
Thanks again for the wonderful help.

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 17 22:46 GMT (UK) »
[quote author=crisane
The GRO index can now be searched using the mother's maiden name.
It is free to search but you have to join up. You can google it.
I did a quick search 1849 +/- 2 years for Clark/Clarke using the mother's maiden name Lishman but no results. I then left out the mmn but the results didn't come up with a mmn looking anything like Lishman.
Elizabeth Jane wasn't previously married was she?  Not as far as we know - mmm interesting thought

And I've just realised what you meant Crisane - so no possible births unless they were stillborn/dead.
Elizabeth Jane was about 10 years older than Richard if 1813...

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Clark nee Lishman
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 17 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Glad you found the GRO index because I was trying to log out of it so I could give you the link without my details popping up on it and I couldn't find the log out button!  ???
As you say Elizabeth may have had some miscarriages/still births. Her death certificate would give cause of death. Don't enter the vol/page no's on the first page then on the second page  state the husband must be Richard Samuel If not you won't be sent it and won't be charged.