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elias evans born c.1844
« on: Friday 08 December 17 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for more information on Elias Evans. I have found the family on the 1891 census living at Llandefalle in a wagon and Elias being described as a Hawker, with his wife Isabella aged 49 born Oswestry .There were 8 children living with the parents. For the daughter Jane the 1891 census gives the age as 10 born Shrewsbury so maybe in 1881 the family may been in the Shrewsbury area ?  Any help would be appreciated, many thanks.

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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
1891 census. Seems to give shropshire as birthplace for jane.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4TFZ-YT2

1901 for isabella and younger kids?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQH-YVN
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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 January 18 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering if you have any info on the Roberts family who married into the Evans family i.e. Isabella Roberts who married Elias senior.  I believe she is the sister of my great grandfather William Roberts a cutler, he had a daughter by the name of Ellen Roberts born c1900 Whitchurch Shropshire, I believe Ellen could be my grandmother.  Also I believe when William died his then wife Mercy (Ellen's mother) began a relationship with William Evans son of Elias and Isabella, they went on to have a child by the name of Alfred.  I know this is a long shot but like you I'm completely stuck!!!!

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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 January 18 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Might this be the Roberts family in 1861 Wales Montgomeryshire Newtown

Robert Roberts 40 pedlar
Jane wife 40 pedlars wife
William son 16 pedlar
Isabella daughter 14

All born Oswestry

6 more children
George 11
Samuel 8
Robert 8
Arthur 6
John 4
Rebecca 10 months

Also when did Elisa Evans and Isabella marry - could it have been as late as 1919?
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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 January 18 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Is this the right Ellen Roberts born c1900 Whitchurch?

1901 census

William Roberts 50 born Oswestry cutler
Elizabeth 30 wife born Holyhead
Ellen daughter 5 months born Whitchurch

Mothers name Reaver ?
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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 January 18 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes I believe so - not sure about Reaver though, is this Elizabeth's mother?  I would love to know more info on Ellen if poss

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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 January 18 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Ellenís mother (possibly)

I looked up a birth registration for Ellen Roberts and found one Dec quarter 1900 in Whitchurch with mothers maiden name as Reaver.

You believed Ellenís mother was called Mercy not Elizabeth? So perhaps this isnít the right birth.
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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 January 18 21:12 GMT (UK) »
I think we are on the right track, well done re finding maiden name of Reaver re Elizabeth, I still can't find it.  I wonder if Elizabeth used the name Mercy as a preference, a lot of my family did change their Christian names.  I guess the next challenge is to find out about the Reaver family and what happened to Ellen as I can't find her on the 1911 census.

Your input is gratefully received as very difficult tracking these people down!!!

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Re: elias evans born c.1844
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 January 18 21:41 GMT (UK) »
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Also I believe when William died his then wife Mercy (Ellen's mother) began a relationship with William Evans son of Elias and Isabella, they went on to have a child by the name of Alfred.

When did William die and when was Alfred born? 

If we can find a birth for Alfred Evans with mothers maiden name Reaver it could prove something.

Can't see a marriage for Elizabeth Reaver to William Roberts.
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