Hi Dee, my Ellen Roberts married Thomas Jones a hawker/cutller in 1925 in St Austell Cornwall and on her marriage certificate her father is named as William Roberts occupation cutler deceased, it actually does not have her mother's name on it. I haven't applied for the marriage certificate for Ellen and Edward Ayres as I know that they were together, they married 1932 Aldershot Hampshire, the reason that I know this as I have information from the archives of Nazareth House as Ellen had placed two of the girls (one of them my mother) into care in Nazareth House Portsmouth in Aug 1932 just before she married Edward Ayres, she was a flower seller in Portsmouth and was picked up by the police as she was homeless with the two girls, hence the girls being put into care. The other daughter was placed in Cardiff Union workhouse in 1929 and then was was moved to Ely childrens home in 1930 and sadly passed away in the City Lodge hospital in 1933. Sadly my Ellen passed away 1939 Aldershot aged 40. Edward Ayres was a gypsy born in Farnham Surrey in 1900. Do you think we talking about the same Ellen? By the way my name is Veronica, Richard xii is a user name, take care and hope to hear from you soon.