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BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« on: Friday 29 December 17 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello all! I hope you are well.
I have come to a standstill with my research of the Barrett family tree. It’s a bit of a mess and I don’t know where to go from here.
I was going to get a birth certificate for Joshua Barret 1822 but the register doesn’t go back that far.
I was wondering if anyone could check what I’ve done so far is right? The dates are a bit muddled up and even though they married young, I’m sure they didn’t marry at 11?
Sorry I can’t be much help, I’ve got myself in a right pickle and I keep hitting a brick wall.


Ashford - Somerset, Bristol, Witham Friary

Barrett/Treeweek - Bristol, Somerset, Cornwall

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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 December 17 05:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi lrashford.

So Joshua 1822 is your confirmed Ancestor?

Who/when did he marry?
Do you have the M/C to establish his Fathers name/occp?

Trish :)
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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 December 17 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Ok found is Baptism on Anc 1822
Parents married 28-Mar 1813 Kilkhampton

William Barrett may have remarried;
11 April 1831 Kilkhampton, William BARRETT, Widower* to Mary MITCHELL

Looks good;
Burial;
JOANNA Barrett 3 July 1828 Kilkhampton age 39
Residence   Scadgell
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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 December 17 06:21 GMT (UK) »
Looking at Non Conformist Baptisms on CornwallOPC we have to William/Joanna at Kilkhanpton;
JOSHUA 1822
THOMAS 1826, William a Labourer, abode Stibb*
ELIZA 1828
Ordinary Baptisms we have;
DORCAS 1819 Kilkhampton, William a Labourer (has dr, presume a daughter)
Cant find any 1813-1818
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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 December 17 06:30 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census
Stibb Village,
Kilkhalmpton
Wm Barrett, 60, Widr, Ag Lab, born Kilkhanpton
William Barrett, 13, Son, born Kilkhampton

1841 Census
William Barrett, 50
Mary Barrett, 40
Fanny Barrett, 9
Sally Barrett, 4
Willam Barrett, 3****** as per 1851 Census
Reg District is Stratton**

Birth Reg Gro Index;
BARRETT, WILLIAM, Mothers mn    MITCHELL*****
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in STRATTON  Volume 09  Page 286

So to summarize;
William did marry Joanna Wood 1813
Joshua was bapt 1822
Joanna died 1828
William remarried to Mary Mitchell 1831
1841/1851 Census I have posted for you and we know it is the right William as William Jnr 1838 has Mothers mn as Mitchell on his Birth Reg.
Also the mention of Stibb on 1826 Bapt of Thomas matches where William/Mary are living in 1841 Census.



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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 December 17 08:15 GMT (UK) »
I see that Joshua married Jane Ellery 1865 in Wales and was a Widower.

They also had a Son that died;
NAME:    Joshua Ellery Barrett
BIRTH:    abt 1869
DEATH:    Jan 1870 - Bedminster, Somerset

Its annoying that Joshua was away at sea and the only Census je seems to appear on in 1861;
Joshua Berrett, Master, Mar, born Kilkhampton, Cornwall

I am pretty sure this is his 1st Wife in Bedminster, Somerset in 1861 Census.

Mary Ann BARRETT, 38, Wife, Mar, Mariners Wife at Sea, born Cornwall.

F/S has a 1853 Marriage Gloucestershire to a Mary Ann Shapton, Joshuas Father William*

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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 December 17 09:03 GMT (UK) »
A lot to take in so get back to me when you can.
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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 December 17 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much, Trish!

I found Joshua Jrs birth certificate which states his mum was married before.



I just don’t have an exact date for Joshua Srs birth
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Barrett/Treeweek - Bristol, Somerset, Cornwall

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Re: BARRETT: made a bit of a mess, please help!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 December 17 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Ok.

So Jane was a Widow.
(will look into that later)

Possible 1st Wife for Joshua Snr Mary Ann is living at 10 Harford St in 1861 Census
Joshua Jnr born 1873 has his Mothers residence as 30 Harford St.
1861 Census has Joshua Berrett Snr (sic) born c 1821 Kilkhampton, Cornwall

So 1871 we have;
Caroline Hunt   48
Jane Barrett   30
Ellen Barrett   10
Charles Barrett   1

1881 we have;
James Ellery   66
Eleanor Ellery   64
Charles E. Barrett 11
Joshua Barrett   8
Mary L. Barrett   5

Now I cant at this stage find a Jane Ellery marriage to a  Fellour?

But CornwallOPC has a 1860 Marriage for Jane Ellery to William TRELOAR, her Father James.
Janes abode Carharrack

William/Jane Baptise a Harriett Lucinda Ellen* Treloar 27 Oct 1861 Gwennap

So could Fellour be Treloar?





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