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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 07 January 18 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Once again Sandra great work thank you. Yes Cecilia is David Junior's sister. She later registers her mothers death under her married name as Cecilia May as far as I can make out. Seems she tried America and it either didn't work out or returned to look after her mother.

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Brian.

 :o This is unbelievable I was just talking to my wife and have just discovered something that is uncanny.

The M Taggart mentioned is actually related to my wifes mother who sadly is no longer with us. This is just a remarkable coincidence. It just goes to show how really close we all are connected by just a few stages of life.  :)

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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 07 January 18 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian,

At least that showed that David Donaldson still had contact with his daughter after he left.

Who was Mrs M Taggart listed on Cecilia's passenger list ? 

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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 07 January 18 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian,

At least that showed that David Donaldson still had contact with his daughter after he left.

Who was Mrs M Taggart listed on Cecilia's passenger list ? 

Sandra

I actually think the name is McTaggart but due to illiteracy in those days got a bit lost translation. So I think my wife is related to relations of the Dysart St couple who had no children. That's the problem with this kind of research. On the face of it there is not much to go on as far as why Cecilia was in contact with the Dysart St couple.


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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 10 October 20 10:50 BST (UK) »
More original records have become available online since the original post, so for example, the marriage of David Donaldson and Mary Jane Long in 1888:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10764/5925711.pdf

However, a 'RootsIreland' transcript of the St. Peter's record of that marriage identifies both parents for each party:

- David Donaldson: Parents Joseph Donaldson and Isabella Kelly;
- Mary Jane Long: Parents William Long and Mary Anne Stewart.

On 22 January 1850 in Lisburn (Church of Ireland) Cathedral, a 27 year old weaver named Joseph Donaldson of Market Lane married 22 year old Isabella Kelly of Bridge End, both fathers (Joseph Donaldson and James Kelly) recorded as weavers, witnesses were James Morrow and David Graham:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09391/5401806.pdf

I can't see a 'local' marriage for a William Long and Mary Anne Stewart.


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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 10 October 20 11:02 BST (UK) »
The 1912 Belfast street directory shows the following entry for Dysart Street:
10. McTaggart, Thos., tailor

Which reads across to this entry in the 1911 Ireland census (note: 11 Years Married):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Smithfield/Dysart_Street/185846/

The relevant marriage record in 1900 reveals what the likely connection is (note: bride's surname and father's details):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10351/5768354.pdf


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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 10 October 20 12:16 BST (UK) »
All of the following are from the 'Lisburn Standard'...

18 June 1898:
CRUELTY TO CHILDREN.
David Donaldson and Mary Jane Donaldson were charged by District-Inspector MacGee with a breach of Section 1 of the Prevention of Cruelty to Children Act of 1894.  The wife appeared, but the husband did not, and a warrant was issued for his arrest - the woman in the meantime to go into the workhouse with the children.


2 July 1898:
ALLEGED NEGLECT OF CHILDREN.
The case of Mary Jane Donaldson, who was prosecuted by District-Inspector MacGee for neglecting her children, was further adjourned for a fortnight to see how she would behave herself.


16 July 1898:
CRUELTY TO CHILDREN.
In this case, which came up in adjournment, Mary Jane Donaldson in conjunction with her husband, were charged with cruelty to their child, a boy of 7 years of age.  The woman had been in the workhouse, but the warrant against the father had not been executed, the defendant having fled the country.  Mr. JOSEPH ALLEN, who appeared for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, applied that the boy should be sent to the Milltown Industrial School until he was 16 years of age, and that the woman and the other children, should be sent back to the workhouse. An order to this effect was accordingly made.



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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 10 October 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
Just a quick review of children to David Donaldson and Mary Jane Long who married on 3 April 1888:

(1) Martha Donaldson born on 1 June 1889 (family address = 15 Crumlin Street, Belfast):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02466/1915939.pdf

(2) Unnamed male Donaldson born on 14 November 1890 (family address = 15 Crumlin Street, Belfast):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02411/1898952.pdf

(3) Joseph Donaldson born on 29 January 1892 (family address = 2 Crumlin Street, Belfast):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02361/1881934.pdf

(4) Albert Samuel Donaldson born on 21 June 1893 (family address = Hill Street, Lisburn):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02308/1865372.pdf

(5) Cecilia Catherine Donaldson born on 16 October 1894 (family address = Hill Street, Lisburn):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02243/1844707.pdf

I haven't yet found any more children, maybe fresh eyes will. The unnamed male (David?) born on 14 November 1890 would have been 7 years old at the time of the newspaper item at Reply #23 above (Joseph would only have been 6).


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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 10 October 20 17:02 BST (UK) »

Just a quick review of children to David Donaldson and Mary Jane Long who married on 3 April 1888:

(1) Martha Donaldson born on 1 June 1889 (family address = 15 Crumlin Street, Belfast):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02466/1915939.pdf


Turning first to (1) Martha Donaldson, she died young in March 1896, there was a lengthy account of an inquest  in a local newspaper of that time into her death at Hill Street, Lisburn, the bottom line is that acute diphtheria was the culprit: 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05910/4677603.pdf
 

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Re: David Donaldson Claremont New Hampshire look up
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 10 October 20 17:23 BST (UK) »

Just a quick review of children to David Donaldson and Mary Jane Long who married on 3 April 1888:

(5) Cecilia Catherine Donaldson born on 16 October 1894 (family address = Hill Street, Lisburn):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02243/1844707.pdf


The Cecilia Donaldson - Daniel May marriage in 1918:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09700/5518647.pdf

Daniel May and Cecilia Donaldson had a son Albert in 1919, who was baptised in St. Matthew's RC church, Belfast:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01258/1522659.pdf

Also baptised in St. Matthew's for this couple were a daughter in 1922 (who went on to marry in St. Anne's of Alcester Street, Birmingham, England in 1941), a son in 1924, and a daughter in 1926, the address recorded in all three baptismal records was 18 Arran Street - I won't name the children on the off chance that they are still alive.