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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Old OS map showing outline of Woodhorn House - to compare with OPs pic and Jamie's outline of Orchard Main.

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the (Conservatory & corner fancy garden side) footprint of Kirkhouse (Near Orchard main) looks similar to your manor house photo
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the (Conservatory & corner fancy garden side) footprint of Kirkhouse (Near Orchard main) looks similar to your manor house photo

Kirkhouse is still standing though and looks very different to the house pictured in the photo: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42022287.html

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the (Conservatory & corner fancy garden side) footprint of Kirkhouse (Near Orchard main) looks similar to your manor house photo

Kirkhouse is still standing though and looks very different to the house pictured in the photo: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42022287.html

Agreed. Nothing like the one in the original photo https://media.onthemarket.com/properties/2774984/doc_0_0.pdf
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the (Conservatory & corner fancy garden side) footprint of Kirkhouse (Near Orchard main) looks similar to your manor house photo

Kirkhouse is still standing though and looks very different to the house pictured in the photo: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42022287.html

Agreed. Nothing like the one in the original photo https://media.onthemarket.com/properties/2774984/doc_0_0.pdf

I agree, yet looking at a footprint on old maps of manor houses of interest ** can help eliminate or research further as members have done with Kirkhouse too eliminate. Keep looking.  ;)
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 10 January 18 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Another article, you'd think there'd be a photo of him with the house in the background somewhere. I wonder if his brother the Marquess of Salisbury and 3 times PM ever visited?

http://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/15481811.Tweeddale_s_History__The_history_of_Lord_Cecil_from_Traquair/


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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 11 January 18 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Glad somebody has mentioned Salisbury.

This Cecil family had extensive links with other families. Sometimes an Estate will be owned by the same family for 100s of years, but you will also find property acquisitions and Marriage Settlements relating to property.

For example, it could be a house of a family, that the Cecils have married into, or visited?

I also noticed Cecil and Salisbury, from a Sackville search ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gascoyne-Cecil,_2nd_Marquess_of_Salisbury

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We have three of these types of Albums from my Mother's side (who were in Service, Butler, etc), my family members sat out on lawns in the Summer, with various sizes and styles of houses behind, including those houses the Family were visiting too, like the 'in-Laws' houses, the houses of business or political associates.

I said to my Great Aunt once, whose house is this, they were friends of our Master.

Just because the house appears in a Cecil album, doesn't necessarily mean Cecil directly owned or occupied the house.

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"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 11 January 18 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Your correct there Mark, Lord Arthur Cecil (with a few middle names) is mentioned in a few Wills, as executer or beneficiary to property in a few counties, in England, Ireland and Scotland (maybe Wales ?) but he originally stems more from Hatfield in Berkshire related to the  Duke of Devonshire. (From Gale newspapers)

I looked at most mentioned online (also demolished ) upper middle size type manor houses, to the big stately homes building footprints on old maps and online photo's with named familes who lived in them, for Northumberland online, yet nothing coming up and from your suggestions with my none findings, its suggests a full UK search including offshore islands

Ancestry of Cecil spouses family names (Of big house estates) and residences maybe the next step.

Burk's peerage books may help.

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 11 January 18 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry of Cecil spouses family names (Of big house estates) and residences maybe the next step.

We'll look forward to your discoveries  :)
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