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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 01:48 GMT (UK) »
Lots of hits for "S G Richards" on Trove, including an obit -
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article19681188
though doesn't mention his children (or marriages)

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 01:56 GMT (UK) »
It appears there were two men named Solomon RICHARDS in South Australia.

From the Biographical Index SA that sometimes has errors.....

RICHARDS Solomon c1821 DOR ENG Agricultural Labourer
arr: 1856 ship AURORA
Rel: C/E
m: Eliza b: c1818
children:
Hannah c1847;  Fanny c1851; Robt J. c1853-


RICHARDS Solomon  c1838 CON ENG Miner
Arrived 1857 ship MARION
m: 10.5.1858  Nth Adelaide SA
Spouse: Mary Ann nee ALLEN
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/marion1857.shtml
RICHARDS Solomon 40 Copperminer Cornwall


SA death for the widow married in 1858 ...but to which Solomon?
Mary Ann RICHARDS aged 68 d. 26 Sep 1887
Relative dec. husband Solomon RICHARDS
Ade / 166 / 17

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 02:14 GMT (UK) »
Well noted Essie.

I see from the "Marion" passenger list that his age is confusing (there is numbers written in every column, though I can't see "40"), but definitely from Cornwall.


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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 02:28 GMT (UK) »
The SA Marriage record in 1858 does say the father of Solomon was named Henry.

So the BISA entry for the 'second' Solomon is definitely an error. The 1851 census has a copperminer in Cornwall named Solomon son of Solomon RICHARDS.

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 03:01 GMT (UK) »
This is odd.........Solomon Richards and wife Mary Ann had a burglary at their premises in Currie St Adelaide in 1863.......

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50178972

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Well noted Essie.

I see from the "Marion" passenger list that his age is confusing (there is numbers written in every column, though I can't see "40"), but definitely from Cornwall.

There is a transcription error on
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/marion1857.shtml
The age is 40 and the next numbers are the B-Index = Biographical Index of South Australia aka BISA.

Solomon is 19 years of age and from Cornwall on SA Records Passenger list for the MARION
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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 04:59 GMT (UK) »
...I am trying to find 4 children who it appears were entered into the asylum. This is what i have.
Solomon RICHARDS arrived on the Aurora in May 1856.
Wife Eliza (Wldon/Waldron/Walden)
children
Anna or Hannah Waldon/Waldron/Walden RICHARDS brn 1846
Fanny RICHARDS brn 1849
Robert John Waldon/Waldron/Walden RICHARDS brn 1852
Eliza RICHARDS brn 1856 (in Adelaide)

... The same researcher the has it that the 3 daughters were entered into the asylum. (19 July 1856?) Again I can't find evidence of this from here.
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There is a record for children of some of these names in 1856/1857 in the Index to Cases of Destitution (GRG 28/4), available on the website of the State Records of South Australia (page 75): https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/content/register-cases-destitution#overlay-context=.

This is an index to case files held in the State Records. I'm not aware these case files have been made public, but would be available for viewing. You can contact SRSA here: https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/content/contact-us. Unfortunately, you may have to contract a researcher, but see how you go.

Heyer, Wray, Fullgrabe, Kayser, Beecken (all Upper Sturt or country SA)

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 05:09 GMT (UK) »
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The researcher also says the Hannah/Anna and her brother chose to be known by their mothers maiden name which would have been Waldron or Waldon or Walden, and says maybe the other 2 girls were known by this name at some point.

Isn't her surname WALDRON?
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Dec 1845 
RICHARDS    Solomon    Bridport    8/54   
WALDRON Eliza         Bridport    8/54

1851 census shows Eliza's age as 34 and born Symondsbury, Dorset.

Baptism record clearly shows the surname as WALDRON.  Attached below

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SA death for the widow married in 1858 ...but to which Solomon?
Mary Ann RICHARDS aged 68 d. 26 Sep 1887
Relative dec. husband Solomon RICHARDS
Ade / 166 / 17
Essie

I doubt a 20 year old lad [and not of full age] would have married in 1858, a woman who stated in court, that she was a widow with six children.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49896240

The marriage registration clearly describes the groom, Solomon RICHARDS FL = full age.

Marriage only lasted a couple of months :-X

South Australian Register 15 Jul 1858
NOTICE. I will NOT be ANSWERABLE
for any DEBTS my WIFE, MARYANN
RICHARDS,of the Adelaide Hotel, may contract after
this date.,
SOLOMON RICHARDS, Adelaide.

and immediately below

NOTICE to the MERCHANTS and
TRADESMEN of ADELAIDE, MARY ANN
RICHARDS (late Mary Ann Allen), of the ADELAIDE
HOTEL, Hindley-street, begs to intimate that she
without, the assistance of Solomon Richards) CON
TINUES to PAY READY CASH for everything she
purchases, as her practice used to be before she had the
nisfortune to marry him.

MARY ANN RICHARDS.

Just trawling through the thread.

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Re: Destitute Asylum Adelaide -
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 January 18 05:17 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lca/

No WALDRON names only

RICHARDS, Eliza  Child           Page#129   1856
RICHARDS Eliza Ann  Child      Page#129   1856
RICHARDS Fanny Child        Page#129   1856.

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