The Griffith family of Criccieth

[Philip Bell]

I have been researching my mother's Welsh family, working back from my   G Grandmother Jane Griffith who was born in Dolbenmaen in 1836. Her father ended his days in Criccieth as a farmer living at Cefniwrch Bach, Criccieth (census 1891) He died before 1901. On the various census returns he was shown as having been born in 1806 at Bryncroes but I have unable to identify him and hence trace the family further back. I have also been unable to find his marriage to Ellen or Elinor of Dolbenmaen who was born around 1814. Any guidance or tips gratefully received!

[keyboard86]

Hi is this Jane in 1851 census, as you do not mention name of her father:-

Henry Griffith 43 occ Horse Jockey b Bryncroes
Elinor 37 b Dolbenmaen
Jane 15
Anne 13
Elinor 9
Eliseus ( Son ) 7
William 4
Elizabeth 0
Residing Criccieth
Census ref HO107/2513/14/20
Keyboard86

[hanes teulu]

A very warm welcome to Rootschat.

There's are 2  Nonconformist (both Independent) baptisms on FindMyPast (image/transcription) for  -
1810
Sep 16th, Henry son of Griffith Griffiths of Castellmnach(?), in the Parish of Llangian, by Elizabeth his wife was baptized by Thos Phillips of Neuadd Lwyd
1811
Henry, son of Richard Griffith of Tan y Graig in the Parish of Llaniestyn, Pwlleli,  by Mary his wife, March 10

[Philip Bell]

Yes that is the family, thank you. Sorry I meant to say that Jane's father was Henry or Harry as recorded elsewhere. He doesn't figure in the 1841 census so far as I can tell. He was variously described a s a horse jockey or breaker but later called himself a farmer.

[Philip Bell]

Many thanks for the kind welcome and also for the potential leads. Whilst I  understand the vagueness of our ancestors about dates of birth where they equally vague about where they were born or baptised?!

[keyboard86]

Hi and welcome if the Eliseus ( Son ) is an ELLIS Griffith his birth was registered Sept qtr 1873 Pwlheli mmn JONES
Keyboard86

How stupid am I !
Ignore

Try Ellis Griffith June qtr1844 Pwlheli mmn WILLIAMS

[Philip Bell]

I am struggling as a new member to understand how to reply to specific comments so please forgive me! I have researched Eliseus who was a Master Mariner. Apparently his name confused the Board of Trade and I found a note explaining that Eliseus is the Welsh form of Elisha!

[keyboard86]

  Well you live and learn, I see that in 1861 the family have a Sarah Griffith aged 8 if she is the Sarah Griffith Dec qtr 1853 Pwlheli her mothers maiden name was Williams
Keyboard86

EDIT Possible late baptism for Sarah, 2nd September 1860 Criccieth Father Henry Mother Ellen
Also William Griffith 8th August 1847 Criccieth Father Henry Mother Ellen
Jane Griffith was baptised 19th July 1835 Dolbenmaen Father Henry Mother Ellen
Also from a Google search see that Ellis can be Elias or Elijah?

[Glynm]

Hi Philip
Here is a possibility Henry HENRY (patronymic) baptised 6 Aug 1809 Bryncroes father Henry GRIFFITH mother Ann.

Glyn