Mary McQuilter

[MonicaL]

I think you mentioned you have Elizabeth's 1861 birth cert? If so, what was the address for the birth?

Monica

[_craigM_]

Didn't get much on David  - 1881 Scotland Census.
Is that Inmate I see?
Would this be the poor house?

Elizabeth's birth cert says Houston but I cant quite read the rest.

[MonicaL]

Pity that Elizabeth's birth address shows just as Houston. There was always the chance that it would have included a more specific address to match the one where the family showed in 1861 (Bridge Street, Houston).

I can't see David in 1881. Do you mean 1871? He does show at the Poorhouse in Paisley in 1871, see www.workhouses.org.uk/Paisley/

Monica

[_craigM_]

Sorry my bad  - yes 1871.

[MonicaL]

You should consider following up on the poor relief application notes that Skoosh linked for you.

This is the one I thought would be for Mary McQuilter:

McQUILTER, Mary
Date 1867
Refs 11 14493 25
Residence Houston
Birth Place Ireland

Page 2752

There are also multiple applications for Mary Ann Monaghan/McQuilter, wife of Andrew Jnr.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Have you looked for deaths for Andrew Snr and wife Catherine?

I thought these might be their indexed death entries:

Andrew MCQUILTER, age 59 in 1879. Death in Greenock New or Middle, Renfrewshire
Catherine MCQUILTER/MCGOUKEN, age not indexed in 1862. Death in Houston and Killellan

See from others' research into these family lines that mother Catherine's maiden name likely has variants such as MCGOWTHRIE.

Monica

[donStanleyNZ]

Craig -- i have quite a bit of info on neil Thomson, he is my wife Sharon's 3rd great grandfather.

[Forfarian]

she must have been "dating" Andrew at this time for Elizabeth to take the McQuilter surname?? 

No.

The only way that a father's name would be on an original birth certificate is if the father accompanied the mother to the registrar's when she went to register the child, and signed the register along with her. Even if the entire parish, including the registrar, knew exactly who the father was, he could not be named on the certificate if he did not do so at the time.

Unless the woman was lying, her name on the birth certificate will always include her maiden surname. If there is no other surname, then that is her own maiden surname.

[Forfarian]

Don't know what happened to Mary yet but when I find out will let you know. I do know that she subsequently had more children, all registered with the surname McQuilter.
Would this be normal in those days if she was unmarried?

Yes. Standard practice.