Mountney Crest Norfolk or Leicestershire?

[Taylor94]

Hi
My 9th grt grandfather was William Mounteney/Mountney of Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire.
As far as I know the Mountney family held land in Leicestershire,Norfolk and at there main family seat Mountnessing, Essex.
In the Leicestershire visitation the Mountney crest is given as
‘A Wolf Sejant Arg., Collared And Lined Gu.’
And on familysilver lists the wolf crest for Mountney of Norfolk, Essex and Leicestershire.

But there is also another crest present on family silver which is
‘A Greyhound Sejant Collared And Lined.’
And lists Mountney of Leicestershire.
As far as I know the last ‘Landed Gentleman’ of Mounteney in Leicestershire was William or maybe his son or nephews.

So was the Greyhound used by them Personally in Leicestershire while the Wolf was the main family crest?

[KGarrad]

A crest is that part that sits on top of the helm/helmet/crown above the shield of the coat-of-arms.
It is this crest that usually appears on silver.
And this crest may differ between different branches of the family.

So, when you say "crest", are you referring to the crest or the coat-of-arms?

[Taylor94]

Crest I should say as it’s listed as a heraldic crest.

[KGarrad]

Burkes General Armoury says this:

Mountney (counties Essex & Leicestershire, and Gestwick, county Norfolk)
Azure, a bend between six martlets or
Crest: A wolf sejant argent, collared and lined gules

Mountney (co Essex)
Gules, a bend cotised between six martlets (another, mullets) or

Mountney (Newland-Vernon, Leicestershire)
Azure, a bend argent between three martlets, or
Crest: A greyhound sejant, collared and lined

Mountney (Cowley, Yorkshire)
Or, a bend between six martlets gules

Mountney
Gules, a bend between six martlets argent (another, or)
Another Gules, a bend cotised between six martlets (another, mullets) or
Another Paly of six or and gules, on a chief, three bezants (another, the chief argent)

So that's arms described for 5 different families, with another 4 variations!

The 2 different crests described are for different families, with similar, but differing coats-of-arms (6 martlets on one; 3 martlets on the other)

[Taylor94]

Ah thank you very much for this, From what I know my Mountneys bought land and moved to Newbold/Newland Verdon but didn’t purchase the Manor. Visitation says this line came from Norfolk, which have deduced as being from a Manor there and originally from the family of Mountnessing.
So it seems the crest could have been changed to a Greyhound when this branch moved to Leicestershire as there were no mountneys prior.
Although visitation does list the Wolf crest.

[KGarrad]

Probably a cadet branch of the main family line?

Changing the number of martlets, and changing the crest to distinguish?

[Taylor94]

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