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Offline carol02

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Rugby Marriage
« on: Wednesday 24 January 18 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Lucy Jane Cockerill married Robert Ramsay on 9 March 1883 at St Matthews Church, Rugby. His occupation says Chemist, his fathers name is also Robert Ramsay.
I don't know where he is from and I can't find them on any census after that date.
Any help will be appreciated.
Carol

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 16:20 GMT (UK) »
A daughter, from GRO Index search:

RAMSAY, LIZZIE        COCKERILL      
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in RUGBY  Volume 06D  Page 533

Possibly more children?
RUMSEY, ELSIE        COCKRELL      
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 618

RUMSEY, HILDA  IRENE      COCKRELL      
GRO Reference: 1894  J Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 577

RUMSEY, GEORGE  RAYMOND      COCKRELL      
GRO Reference: 1897  D Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 520
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 16:29 GMT (UK) »
something to consider
There is a death in Queensland Australia on Aug 7 1907 of a Lucy Jane RAMSAY
Gives parents as Lucy Jane and James COCKERILL

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Robert, Lucy & Lizzie RAMSAY travelled on the SALIER to Australia
Shown as English and destined for Brisbane on Mar 19 1888

Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 16:32 GMT (UK) »
something to consider
There is a death in Queensland Australia on Aug 7 1907 of a Lucy Jane RAMSAY
Gives parents as Lucy Jane and James COCKERILL
Marriage gives father as Charles  :-\
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XXBG-9Y7
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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Potential family in 1881?

Dinder, Somerset
RG11/2411/65/4

Ramsay, Robert  Head  M  63  Landowner, Australia  b Calcutta
Ramsay, Susan  Wife  F  53  b Scotland
Ramsay, Marmaduke Francis  Son  M  Undergraduate, Cambridge  20  b Cheltenham
Ramsay, Robert Christian  Son  M  19  Cambridge University Undergraduate  b Cheltnham
Ramsay, Nina Mary  Daughter  F  14  b Queensland
Ramsay, Edith Patricia  Daughter  F  10  b Queensland
+ Governess and 7 servants
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 January 18 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help
The Ramsays look a wealthy family maybe they all went back to Australia.
Lucy Jane Cockerill was a teacher at a private school.  I wandered whether they both taught at Rugby School, thats the only private school I know in the area and Robert Ramsay was well educated if he went to Cambridge University.
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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 January 18 12:31 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Robert Christian Ramsay married Olive Zillah Voss 23 October 1907 in Queensland, Australia. They had Norman Ian 1915  Olive Joan 1916  Diane Patricia 1918 and David Malcolm 1924
They are on board a passenger ship in 1925 leaving Liverpool for Sydney.
So what happened to Lucy Jane and Lizzie?
Carol

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 January 18 13:42 GMT (UK) »
looks probable then that the death I gave earlier is Lucy Jane although the father's name is not consistent
There is a death in Queensland Australia on Aug 7 1907 of a Lucy Jane RAMSAY
Gives parents as Lucy Jane and James COCKERILL


would be interesting to see if Robert Christian Ramsay was shown as a widower or divorced when he married in October 1907

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Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900 does not mention an earlier marriage
Adm. at TRINITY HALL, 1880. [2nd] s. of Robert, Esq., of London [and of Howletts, Canterbury] (and Susan, dau. of William Fullarton Lindsay Carnegie, of Spynie and Boysack). [B. Dec. 20, 1861.] School, Harrow. Matric. Michs. 1880. Cricket ‘blue,’ 1882. Played also for Somerset. A sheep-farmer in Australia. Married, Oct. 1907, Olive Zillah, dau. of W. W. Voss, of Penrice, Queensland, Australia, and had issue. Of Harrow, Cambooya, Queensland, in 1925, and of Howletts, Canterbury, in 1937. Brother of Marmaduke F. (1879). (Harrow Sch. Reg.; Book of Blues; Burke, L.G.)
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Rugby Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 January 18 16:33 GMT (UK) »
There is a wedding photograph of Robert Christian Ramsay's wedding to Olive Zillah Voss in 1907 in someones family tree on Ancestry. The marriage certificate states he was a bachelor.
So I think I am on the wrong trail and need to continue looking for Lucy Jane and Robert Ramsay
Carol