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CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« on: Thursday 25 January 18 14:53 GMT (UK) »
I am once again seeking more information about this family:

1. Eliza baptised 21 July 1837; (her mother Ann Jones died 28th July 1837) with her grandmother Hannah Miles formerly Jones in 1841 in Pembridge  and then I next find her in Paris 1859 where she marries my G Grandfather Anton Nida. How did she get there?

2. Eliza's father John was a cooper in Hardwick, part of Eardisland parish, but I have so far failed to confirm his death & burial.

I'd really appreciate any help/advice to solve these problems. Thank you.
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 January 18 23:57 GMT (UK) »
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her mother Ann Jones

Your subject shows surname as Caldwell - was Jones her maiden name?

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Eliza's father John was a cooper in Hardwick, part of Eardisland parish, but I have so far failed to confirm his death & burial.

John Jones or John Caldwell?   What is the last census you have him on?  When and where was he born?

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How did she get there?

Train or boat??
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 January 18 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol, thank you for your reply.

Sorry my post was not very clear:

Mother Anne Jones married John Caldwell in 1832.

I have not confirmed any census or death for John. He was baptised in  1802 Pembridge

Eliza going to Paris: who did she go with? Was she in service & went with a family and when? Thereís such a big gap 1841-1859!

I hope this makes things clearer.
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 January 18 10:31 GMT (UK) »
It would be impossible to say how Eliza travelled to Paris or who she went with given the timescale.

Have you already discounted the 47yr old John Caldwell - widower - living in Hereford in 1851?

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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 January 18 12:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carol; I have not seen this death before; Iíve just checked the few death certs. that I have but not that one. Where did you find it? Iíve just checked the GRO but it didnít show up 1851 +/- 2 yrs.

As for Eliza - perhaps I should visit her grave to ask her - sheís buried in the Nida family grave quite near me.
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 January 18 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi

It was an 1851 census entry I found not a death entry
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 January 18 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole, please can you tell me which site you found the 1851 census. Iíve searched FindMyPast, Family Search, Ancestry, FreeCen & The Genealogist withou luck. I did find  few on FindMyPast but most were in an asylum with only initials & I have no evidence to indicate that my John had a second name. He was baptised John parents were John & Elizabeth. The puzzle remains, unless he went to USA .
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 January 18 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Search John Caldwell born 1804 Winslow Herefordshire - ref is HO107 Piece 1980 Folio 456 Page 5

Got my doubts about him as he was an agric labourer not a cooper so probably the wrong one
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Re: CALDWELL, Eardisland & Pembridge
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carole, yes Iíve seen & discounted. I do know that when his daughter Eliza married in Paris 1859 that both her parents were deceased. I have found one newspaper cutting that could relate to John; he died in 1855 having been ill for sometime- he was described as a widowed cooper;
Hereford Times  26th April 1855.
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