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1901 census help/any alternate resources out there I can use
« on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
(Trying again after posting to the wrong forum-have deleted that one)

Apologies for the long post, but I wouldn’t want anyone to waste time looking for what I have already found.
Short version is that I am hoping that someone may be able to find this family in the 1901 census ( I am boss-eyed from looking and failing!) Either that or perhaps point me to somewhere that may be able to help me verify that they were still in the same place between 1896 and 1911 and therefore be fairly sure I have the right records - which I feel is highly likely.
If anyone has the time to review the following and let me know if I am going off on the wrong track or making reasonable headway with this family, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Boo

Details:
Patrick Walsh
Parish Register Scan - baptised 14th September 1850 Killaveney RC Parish, parents Michael Walsh and Ann Doyle, Abode Drummond (sic)  - from another son’s English marriage cert I know that Dad, Michael, was a blacksmith.

Patrick married Eliza(beth) Haughton 5th Feb 1883, in Enniscorthy RC Chapel, Wexford (bride’s home parish). His occupation was Smith, residence Ballinglen, Co Wicklow, Father Michael Walsh, Smith, Deceased

9 children between Feb 1884 and 1896, I have baptism records (transcriptions) for some and civil birth register entries (register scans) for them all, they all have Patrick Walsh (blacksmith) and Eliza Haughton as parents.

1 Unnamed Female Feb 1884,  no baptism record found, Civil reg residence - Drummin

2 Marianne, Dec 1884, a twin,  baptism and civil register both have residence as Drummin

3 Michael, Dec 1884, a twin, baptism and civil register both have residence as Drummin

4 Edward, Jan 1886, baptism and civil register both have residence as Drummin

5 Ellen, July 1888, no baptism record found, Civil reg residence - Drummin
   Ellen married Lawrence Cranitch, Killaveney RC Church, Aug 1912, Residence was Ballinglen father Patrick Walsh ‘tradesman, dec'd’

6 Kate/Catherine, Aug 1890, baptism record says Drummin, Civil register says Ballinglen

7 James, Nov 1892, baptism record says Drummin, Civil register says Ballinglen
   James died March 1893, Death register residence is Ballinglen.

8 Patrick, Jan 1894, Baptism at Killeveney, no abode recorded, civil register says Ballinglen
  note on this baptism transcription says "married in Annacuna to Kathleen Slea , 11 June 1947

9 Elizabeth, Mar 1896, Baptism at Killeveney, no abode recorded, civil register says Ballinglen

I have extremely limited Irish geographical knowledge, but web searches indicate that Ballinglen is a smaller place within Drummin, or t’other way round, I am really not sure.

Okay, all well and good, and I then tried the 1901 and 1911 census
1901 I am drawing a very frustrating blank
1911 has resident at, according to the address panel,
County: Wicklow, Poor Law Union: Shillelagh, DED Ballybeg, Barony: Ballinacor South, Parish Kilcommmon, Townland, Ballybeg

Elizabeth Walsh, head,  RC, age 55, widow, married 28  years, 9 children, 4 still living, born Co Wicklow
Michael Walsh, son, RC, 26, Blacksmith, single,  born Co Wicklow
Edward Walsh, son, RC, 25, Blacksmith, single,   born Co Wicklow
Ellen Walsh, daughter, RC, 22, Post Office Assistant, single, born Co Wicklow
Patrick Walsh, son, RC, 17, Blacksmith, single, born Co WIcklow
Patrick Kenny, servant, RC, 50, Blacksmith, single born Co Wicklow
All of the above, with the exception of Mum, Elizabeth’s, birth county which was Wexford not Wicklow, ticks the right boxes.

I have a ‘quite possible’ death register entry for Patrick’s death
June 1909,  Ballinglen, Patrick Walsh, married, age 53, occ: Tradesman, Informant: Edward Walsh, son, Ballinglen
I am interpreting the change is occupation description (on Ellen’s marriage record and the death record for Patrick) from ‘Blacksmith’ to ‘Tradesman’ as being ‘qualified at his trade’.

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Re: 1901 census help/any alternate resources out there I can use
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:27 GMT (UK) »
I only did a Search for Walsh, age 2 ( +/- 5 yrs) 1901 ... don't see Elizabeth/Eliza


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Re: 1901 census help/any alternate resources out there I can use
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:47 GMT (UK) »
3 Drummin in Wicklow!!

"... baptism and civil register both have residence as Drummin..."  in what District Office??
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 January 18 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Wicklow Reg Districts



Baltinglass
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Rathdrum
Shillelagh
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Re: 1901 census help/any alternate resources out there I can use
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for taking the time to look hallmark

1 The search for Elizabeth age 2 +/-5 years. - thanks

Have not yet found her death register entry.  As there were 4 children listed (none of them Elizabeth) in 1911 and Elizabeth (senr) mistakenly, but luckily completed the section about years married/children born and still living, all I can safely assume is that Elizabeth died sometime between her birth in 1896 and the 1911 census.

I have tried for  Mum, and all of the children listed in 1911 but am still drawing a blank for the 1901 census :-(

2 Thanks for the link, have bookmarked that and will have a mooch round later

3 Civil Registration districts  were:

For the parents marriage:

RC Church of Enniscorthy, Registrars District of Enniscorthy no2, Union of Enniscorthy, Co Wexford

births /deaths were:

Superintendant Registrars District of Shillelagh,
Registrars District of Tinahely
Union of Shillelagh
County Wicklow

 
for Ellen's marriage it was RC Church of Killaveney, Registrars District Tinahely, Union of Shillelagh, Co Wicklow

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4. My old age has enough to be blamed for! :-)

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Patrick would have died 1895 at earliest, checked Wills...don't see anything

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 January 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lf2/  gets you the results of this search
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