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Is this Sheffield?
« on: Thursday 08 February 18 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone identify the location of this photograph of Bert, please? Bert lived in Sheffield for several years, so could that be it?

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Re: Is this Sheffield?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 February 18 20:00 GMT (UK) »
I reckon it's Essex, not Yorkshire: Westcliff-on-Sea (Southend). Allen's Library was at 174 Hamlet Court Road. Bert is crossing Burdett Avenue on his way along Hamlet Court Road. Number 174 is now Athena Carpets.

Here's the Google streetview picture from a roughly corresponding position. https://goo.gl/jApgxP

Or maybe this view is better (see the shape of the windows on the other side at the far end) https://goo.gl/WkKszs

A reference from the 1920's  https://goo.gl/MZvHwh

And one from 1950 https://goo.gl/8mUifc
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Re: Is this Sheffield?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 February 18 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Great stuff, thanks ShaunJ. Your evidence is certainly very convincing. I don't think I need to look any further. I'll post the photo on the Essex forum in case anyone there can add anything.

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Re: Is this Sheffield?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 February 18 23:43 GMT (UK) »
I reckon it's Essex, not Yorkshire: Westcliff-on-Sea (Southend). Allen's Library was at 174 Hamlet Court Road. Bert is crossing Burdett Avenue on his way along Hamlet Court Road. Number 174 is now Athena Carpets.

Here's the Google streetview picture from a roughly corresponding position. https://goo.gl/jApgxP

Or maybe this view is better (see the shape of the windows on the other side at the far end) https://goo.gl/WkKszs

A reference from the 1920's  https://goo.gl/MZvHwh

And one from 1950 https://goo.gl/8mUifc

I  think the window surrounds put the cherry on the cake for ShaunJ's  find.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/174+Hamlet+Ct+Rd,+Southend-on-Sea,+Westcliff-on-Sea/@51.5415891,0.6960019,3a,19.2y,24.59h,98.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si17wgQOe_-WD2WDjVwyfoQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x47d8d9ba5d0ecaa3:0xd3ab8198908ab5c7!8m2!3d51.5413511!4d0.6961216
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Re: Is this Sheffield?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 February 18 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes, those windows are very distinctive - great. Thanks dobfarm.

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