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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:51 GMT (UK) »
No I couldn’t easily find a suitable Frances pre-1891.

James’ natural father may indeed have been a James Carr.
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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #28 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:56 GMT (UK) »
The only Frances born the same time in Stamfordham has the surname Thomason and she married a William Armstrong and she is tracked through the census's

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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #29 on: Friday 16 February 18 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Good possibility for Frances in 1881

RG 11 / 5098 / 67 / 5

In the household of James Liddell

Richmond Hill, Cheeseburn Grange, Stamfordham

Fanny Charlton, servant, unm, 18, Dairymaid, Nbl Hawkwell

Hawkwell is right next-door to Stamfordham http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=407730&Y=571765&A=Y&Z=115

Richmond Hill is a short distance to the south.
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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #30 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:04 GMT (UK) »
a possible in 1871 in Hawkwell

Cornelius Charlton 75 widow b Ovingham farm labourer
Matthew Charlton 40 son unm b Stanfordham farm labourer
Anne Charlton 11 granddaughter b Stanfordham

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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #31 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:09 GMT (UK) »
a possible in 1871 in Hawkwell

Cornelius Charlton 75 widow b Ovingham farm labourer
Matthew Charlton 40 son unm b Stanfordham farm labourer
Anne Charlton 11 granddaughter b Stanfordham

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One word of warning: Charlton is an extremely common surname in these parts  ;D
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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #32 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:19 GMT (UK) »
I know!  :'( I just wondered as the Grandfather is called Cornelius the same as one of her children and they also had a daughter called Frances b c 1834

There is also a Frances Charlton registered under the Castle Ward district 1863 no MMN

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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #33 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:21 GMT (UK) »
There is also a Frances Charlton registered under the Castle Ward district 1863 no MMN

I think that is most likely 'your' Frances
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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #34 on: Friday 16 February 18 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes I think so its just a case of chasing that down further

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Re: John James Charlton - HELP!
« Reply #35 on: Friday 16 February 18 14:45 GMT (UK) »
I know!  :'( I just wondered as the Grandfather is called Cornelius the same as one of her children and they also had a daughter called Frances b c 1834

Interestingly Frances appears to be in service at Richmond Hill in 1861, which is where I think 'your' Frances is in 1881  :-\  I can't yet find either of them in 1871  :-\
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