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Coat of Arms Deciphering
« on: Friday 16 February 18 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help here?

I found a small piece of silver spoon engraved coat of arm as shown on attached picture. It looks like two bears (or maybe lions?) holding the shield with a crest on top of it. I can only image it's from mid or east Europe where I found it.

Any help deciphering appreciated.

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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 February 18 15:52 GMT (UK) »
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The coronet, on top of the shield, looks to have 12 pearls (7 of which are visible)?
So, perhaps a  Baron/Freiherr of the Holy Roman Empire.
Or a Baron, of Belgium or the Netherlands or Russia or Denmark.

The 2 bears/lions will be Supporters, to the sides of the shield.

The image isn't good enough to make out any detail. :-\
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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 February 18 16:09 GMT (UK) »
A crop and enhancement of image, only a small picture so it is the best I can do with 92 dpi :)

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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 February 18 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

The coronet, on top of the shield, looks to have 12 pearls (7 of which are visible)?
So, perhaps a  Baron/Freiherr of the Holy Roman Empire.
Or a Baron, of Belgium or the Netherlands or Russia or Denmark.

The 2 bears/lions will be Supporters, to the sides of the shield.

The image isn't good enough to make out any detail. :-\

Dear KGarrad, I tried another photo as posted. This is the best I can do and hope it provides more details? Any comments? Thanks!


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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 February 18 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Don't know if it helps much, but might the animal on the left hand side be a greyhound?  I believe they are used in heraldry.  The one on the right looks different and a bit goat like.  Neither looks much like a bear to me.

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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 February 18 21:23 GMT (UK) »
A boar & a tree?

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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 February 18 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Snap, Skoosh! ;D

There are some charges at top left and top right, too.
The boar is standing on level ground, I think.
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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 February 18 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Could that be a crescent, left,  and five-pointed star, right,  in chief (at the top)? The left supporter might be a talbot or hunting dog. I can't recall what colour/tincture is represented by the horizontal lines.

The wavy top to the shield is not common. Also, is there a mound at the base, below the boar?

BP1054, Does the camera have a macro closeup setting for an even sharper picture?

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Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 February 18 23:23 GMT (UK) »
As I said, the coronet almost certainly refers to a European Baron.
The "Renaissance" style shield shape is also more popular in Europe.

I don't have any reference works for European Heraldry :-\
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