Yes, Daniel was certainly illegitimate.
It's the relationship of Zachariah and Mary that I cannot fathom.
Grave 1342 Brunswick Chapel, Bury owned by Zachariah has the following:
Thomas Mander buried 1845 9m son of Zachariah
Daniel Mander buried 1858 48 son of Sarah
John Eli Mander buried 1859 19m son of George son of Zachariah
Mary Dikinson buried 1862 58 daughter of William & Sarah
Elizabeth Alice Mander buried 1864 5m daughter of George son of Zachariah
Sarah Talbert buried 1865 80 mother of Daniel
Joseph Mander buried 1845 12 son of Zachariah
So we have a baptism for Mary at Dudley 1804 dau of William & Sarah
a baptism for Zachariah at Dudley 1811 son of Thomas & Sarah
a baptism for Daniel same day as Zachariah son of Sarah
I have had a lookup of the PRs for St Thomas and they are simple with no extra information, Zachariah's baptism is directly above Daniels.
I cannot identify a Thomas & Sarah at Dudley, or a William & Sarah at Dudley.
I suspect that Sarah was the mother to all of them, but then maybe I want to make an easy assumption
The families were definitely connected, followed each other around the country, and witnesses at each others marriages, lived in the same places.
It's annoying me because I would like to put them in my tree
thanks for any extra eyes on this problem,
cheers,
Sharon