Timothy Lee

[pomp]

Hi all

I am trying trace Timothy Lee (My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather) back to into Ireland. This is what I have so far. I appreciate the birth dates may indicate that I don't have the same person in each census, however, I will say that the recording of the family's birth dates has proved fairly random. I have no knowledge of how to go about research in Ireland, so any advice would be appreciated. I'm looking for any records whatsoever.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787779.new

1901 census
Inmate  workhouse Merthyr Tyfdil
Timothy Lee, widower, 61, b.1840, Ireland, general lab

1881 census
70 Gloster St, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil
Timothy Lee, Head, 49,  b. 1832, Cork Co Cork Ireland, Haulier
Margaret Lee, Wife, 62, b.1819, Cork Co Cork Ireland
John Coleman, Grandson, 7, 1874, Merthyr Tydfil
Daniel Ryan, Lodger Head, Married, 39, 1842, Ireland, Lab
Ann Ryan, Lodger wife, 25, 1856, Bridgend
Mary Ryan, Daughter, 2, 1879, Bridgend
Ellen Ryan, Daughter, 0, 1881, Aberdare

1871 Census
Pond St, Merthy Tydfil, Dowlais Ward
Timothy Lee, 44, 1827, Ireland (no occupation)
Margaret Lee, 43, 1828, Ireland

Thanks

David

[hallmark]

Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Timothy Lee from 1830 to 1850
Area - CORK & ROSS (RC)

Displaying results 1 - 28 of 28.  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ln6/

[pomp]

Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Timothy Lee from 1830 to 1850
Area - CORK & ROSS (RC)

Displaying results 1 - 28 of 28.  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ln6/

Thanks for the link

[heywood]

Hello,

If Timothy is your 3x grandfather, who is your 2x grandparent?
They have no children with them in 1871 but a grandchild, John Coleman in 1881.
This would indicate a Lee daughter but the only birth I have found for John Coleman has a mmn of ‘Ravanaugh’ which is perhaps Kavanagh.
I was thinking it may be easier to find a baptism of their child in Ireland.

Heywood

[pomp]

Hi

Thanks for coming back; this what I have with any degree of certainty. This in the marriage certificate of his son Michael:

19 Sep 1870
Michael Lee / 23 / Blaina/ Father Timothy Lee
Margaret Gibbon / 19 / Tredegar / Father William Gibbon

I can't make the church name out but was a catholic wedding in the district of Bedwelty.

The birth certificate of Michael and Margaret's daughter:

b. 20 Sep 1870
Father: Michael Lee / Cinder fitter (I think)
Mother: Margaret Lee

The address looks like Pond Row, Tredegar.

This family are really difficult to track

Thanks

David

[hallmark]

They obviously had children.

Do you know how many?

Names?

Census or Marriage Ages? etc

Where born?

[pomp]

1891(2 share house 8 Globe Pit Row)

I don't know who this Michael Lee is:
Hd Michael Lee 40, Wid, Millright in Forge, b. Tredegar
Son William, 19, unmarried, coal miner, b.Tredegar
Son John Lee, 13, b. Blaina
Dau Margaret Lee, 10, b. Blaina

and

But Mary Ann Jones here was my Michael Lee's daughter:
Hd Spencer Jones, 24, Tinworker, b. Pontypool
Wife Mary Ann Jones, 24, b. Blaina
Dau Margaret Ann Jones, 1, b. Blaina

possible from 1881

Pit Row, Blaina RG11/5240 folio 118 pg 53
Michael Lay head mar 32 cinder filler coke oven b. Co Cork, Ireland
Margaret wife 29 b. Co. Cork, Ireland
Mary Ann dau 11 b. Blaina
Rachel dau 7 b. Tredegar
William son 5 b. Tredegar

This is pretty much all I have. This thread has been running on the Monmouthshire page:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787779.9

thanks

David

[heywood]

Both those censuses seem to be the same family based on address and neighbours.
What was Timothy’s occupation on Michael’s marriage certificate and who were the witnesses?

[pomp]

I will have to check when I get home

Thanks for your interest