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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #36 on: Friday 27 August 10 22:10 BST (UK) »
I will look into it but I've not found any Quarry connections yet. I have found all my relatives and confirmed them all now via google on the shore/lands family.

Thanks so much for your replies. I am new to this!!

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« Reply #37 on: Friday 27 August 10 22:15 BST (UK) »
If you do find any quarrying or mining connections let me know because Wickersley Shores are in my family. There is also story of the Shores of Norton originally coming from Huddersfield but this is a long way back.

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« Reply #38 on: Friday 27 August 10 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks I will keep you posted of my progress. I have just found this comment about my family

"Note this tree was incorporated into my Shore of Norton Hall Page- but the Joshua here was having children after Joshua Shore of "Nightingale/Shore" line died in 1766 in Sheffield. This line may find its way back and is being maintained here."

http://www.oocities.com/layedwyer/landshore.htm
(my GGGGG Grandad Matthew is about 4 people down on this link, its very hard to read the top as there is links all over it, so I am not sure if Joshua is matthews dad or brother)

Not sure if this means anything to you, I am VERY confused now!

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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #39 on: Friday 27 August 10 22:27 BST (UK) »
Obviously like me they think there may be a link but have yet to find it. I suppose it means just keep searching and who knows?


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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 28 August 10 00:16 BST (UK) »
Hello I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a copy of Chantry Land   The Shore's are mentioned on several pages and there are photos of the hall.   If you wish any of this info please send me a personal e-mail

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Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 28 August 10 00:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam

That would be great, how can I get your email address?


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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 28 August 10 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Hope the following will assist some of you with your research:-

Samuel Shore of Sheffield a Merchant = Jane Sykes dau of George Sykes of Norton  Staffordshire   
                                                             

They Had:-
Mary =  9.2.1737 John Milnes of Wakefield
Esther = Robert Milnes of Wakefield
Jane = John Finch Jnr of Dudley Worcestershire
Samuel Shore of Sheffield & Broadfield = Mary Diggles dau of Robert Diggles of Liverpool
they had:-
Hannah = Thomas Walker of Manchester
John
William = 1792 Matlock, Derbys Mary Evans, they had William Edward who
inherited the Nightingale Estates in Derbyshire, changed his name to Nightingale to inherit and was the father of Florence Nightingale.
Samuel residence "Norton Hall" = Urith Offley dau of Joseph Offley of Norton Hall
they had:- Samuel, Bohun Shore.  The second Wife was Lydia Flower of Gainsboruugh, Lincolnshire no issue.

Samuel (the son of Samuel & Urith) = Harriet Fitz-Walter Foy they had:-
Sidney, Offley, Elizabeth, Harriet, Urith, Amelia and Maria.

The above information extracted from:-
Baronetage of England by William Betham 1805 which can be seen in full
on Google ~Books.  The actual page number in the book is 459.  There
is also full information on the Milnes family of Wakefield.

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Re: Florence Nightingale
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 28 August 10 11:29 BST (UK) »
I am not sure that is correct as I have another version

http://www.andrewspages.dial.pipex.com/matlock/ped/nightingale.htm

and certainly looking at the history of Norton Manor and Meersbrook Hall there is now William mentioned as a son of Samuel in any deeds or wills. The line there would seem to indicate that the Nightingale Shores were cousins to the Norton Shores. Florence did visit her relatives in Meersbrook Hall but anything I've read implies they were distant cousins. When the Norton Shores went bancrupt when their bankfailed if the Nightingales were in direct descent there would have been arguments about their inheritance. I've seen nothing of that in the archives. I have seen a letter suggesting that they should write to the Nightingales and ask for some financial aid.

The story of the Shores losing Norton and Meersbrook is very sad. There was a desperate struggle to stop the whole family ending up destitute. Offley Shore Samuel Shores juniors son went to the Chancery to plead for his aged spinster aunts allowances willed by his father to still continue by putting them as priority as Creditors. There is a letter (not known by whom) that says the old man is making himself ill and needs to accept the inevitable before he loses his sanity and his friends.

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« Reply #44 on: Saturday 28 August 10 16:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Just to make it clear the pedigree I listed previously stated that William Shore was the son of Samuel Shore & Mary Diggles they had 2 other surviving sons Samuel = Urith Offley and Lydia Flower, and John.

A far more detailed Shore Tree appears in "Hallamshire. The History & Topography of the Parish of Sheffield"
which can be found in Google Books Pg 219, this tree lists all children who did not SURVIVE,  William Shore is
listed as the 3rd Surviving Son of Samuel Shore & Mary Diggles.

In the History of the County of Derby Vol 2 by Stephen Glover 1829, although not showing the Shore Tree
does offer confirmation that William Shore = Mary Evans not only had William Edward Shore  and Mary Shore
but Ann Shore who died aged 3.
All the above children were Bpt. at Upper Ind. Presbyterian, Sheffield
William Edward born 15.2.1794 Bpt 6.3.1794
Mary  born 4.2.1798 Bpt. 15.2.1798
Ann born 18.1.1797 bpt 15.2.1796

I have not researched the Shore Banking interests, however by the time the bank went bust, William Shore =
Mary Evans would have been dead and his son William Edward was probably never involved with the Bank
having inherited the Nightingale Manors in 1803  taking actual possession when he reached the age of 21
in 1815.

Hope this assists.
Spendlove



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