Jessie Duncan/Asprey West Bromwich Staffordshire

[matsonline]

 I am looking for My great Grandmother -Jessie Duncan,   her Father was Robert Duncan Shoemaker - he was born in Scotland 1832 -Her Mother was Elizabeth Rule/Duncan (Betsy) born West Bromwich 1850
She was born in West bromwich staffordshire, in 1876- at the age of 16 in the 1891 census- she worked as a domestic servant and lived with her parents at- 48 Gedbury rd west brom, then in 1897 she had a Child My grandmother- Elsie Duncan, maybe in the infirmary/workhouse. Her parents disowned her, a year later she married George Asprey  from west brom in 1898 - and they Moved to Castleford West yorkshire.   Jessie had  3 sisters perhaps half sisters and 2 half brothers
Thomas Duncan born 1855
Elizabeth Duncan born 1857
william duncan born 1860
Kate Duncan 1864
Janet Duncan 1869
Jessie born  1876
Perhaps the descendants of these brothers and sisters might know something?
I am looking for anyone that may know the full story of The Duncan family and -Jessie Duncan/Asprey, as there was a Family notice placed in a Large named newspaper 
looking For Jessie's Daughter Elsie Duncan /Asprey/married name -Robbins who lived in Castleford west yorkshire ,
Elsie's son my uncle remembers it but not the dates- it must have been between 1930-1976 Elsie did not respond to this add, and so we will never know who tryed to contact her.
I know its a LONG shot but if i dont try to find out something we'll never know who our real great grandfather was.
Thank you for reading and Fingers crossed,
Brian

[cati]

Welcome to rootschat!

It may be well worth your writing to the letters page of "The Black Country Bugle":  this is a weekly newspaper, very popular in the Black Country, which is full of articles relating to the area.  You might find that one - or more - of the descendants  respond.

Cati

[matsonline]

Thanks Cati, thats a great Help I'll do it right now.
Cheers
brian

[suzard]

Hello -you probably have this information

it seems Elsie took on the name Asprey
1901
18 Thomas St W bromwich
George Asprey Head M 28 coal Miner Loader Dudley Worcs
Jessie wife 25
ELSIE ASPREY daughtr 3
William Asprey son 1
Jessie and children all b W Brom
and next door lived George's mother
16 Thomas St
Mary J Asprey widow 56 charwoman Dudley
RG13 2718 67 38

on Electoral rolls George & Jessie Asprey are living at 40 Wellington St Castleford Yks
they can be found at this address for many years -the last one I looked at was 1927

It seems Elsie married in the name of Asprey
Marriage reg FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1917
Pontefract
Elsie Asprey
George Robbins
9c 258

It seems Jessie died 1927
Death reg FreeBMD
Jessie Asprey
Mar qtr 1927
age 51
Pontefract
9c 246

Have you Elsie's birth cert to see who she names as her father?
Sometimes on baptism records father is named

George and Elsie Robbins lived at 22 Widdup St Castleton 1935
and at 105 Wheldon Rd 1948

Death reg George Robbins Mar qtr 1962 age 65 Pontefract 2c 770

death reg
Elsie Robbins born 30 Sept 1897
death Sept 1975 age 78
Pontefract
5 1102

there are 3 trees on A******y which have this family but Elsie is given the name Asprey and her birth is noted as 1898 - so they may not be too well sourced

Suz

[suzard]

I am looking for My great Grandmother -Jessie Duncan,   her Father was Robert Duncan Shoemaker - he was born in Scotland 1832 -Her Mother was Elizabeth Rule/Duncan (Betsy) born West Bromwich 1850
.   Jessie had  3 sisters perhaps half sisters and 2 half brothers
Thomas Duncan born 1855
Elizabeth Duncan born 1857
william duncan born 1860
Kate Duncan 1864
Janet Duncan 1869
Jessie born  1876

Brian

Why do you think Jessie's siblings could be half brother and sisters???

Suz

[matsonline]

Hi Suz,

Thank you very much for the info, its great !
I did have some of it, i did not know George's Mother lived next door and will be looking at the census,again ,I also thought that Jessie and George married in West bromwich in 1898, will look at the marriage in pontefract 1917 that you told me about,  I think Mary j Asprey ended up livingin Castleford with her son Samuel who was killed in WW1
Although As my Grandmother was Elsie Duncan /asprey ,I dont know if we are still related to the asprey's ,I have ordered Elsie's Birth certificate and it should arrive any day now.
Do you know anything about  Elsie's Brothers and sisters the Duncans?
I also didnt know George and Elsie lived Widdup st Castleford ,i know they lived at Wheldon Rd.
Thanks again and please do keep in touch
Bri

[matsonline]

Hi Suz,

 In the 1871 census Robert Duncan  was a Widower all his children
Thomas
Elizabeth
William
Kate and Janet all born At Coventry
i surposed Jessie was the only Daughter of Betsey. Robert's second wife in West Bromwich

[suzard]

Hi Suz,

Thank you very much for the info, its great !

Do you know anything about  Elsie's Brothers and sisters the Duncans?
I also didnt know George and Elsie lived Widdup st Castleford ,i know they lived at Wheldon Rd.
Thanks again and please do keep in touch
Bri

I'll check the siblings out now

Suz

[matsonline]

Hi Suz,
I have been trying to find anything on the siblings
all i seem to have found is a marriage between William Duncan and Emma Dancer 1884 -6b .1213
i believe they moved to Canada, at the end of this month i renew my An*****try site and will be able to look at American Austraila and Canada census's
Thanks again
Bri