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John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Wondering if a 2nd set of eyes could help.

I have spent several days searching the BNA for a report of a suicide and am struggling.

John Richards born 1863 in Carlton Nottingham.

Committed suicide some time after April 1891 (have him living with his parents on the census) and Feb 1905 when the knowledge of his suicide was used in a court record by the defense to try an plead insanity runs in the family.

There are other suicides in a small area of the branch of the family, all in Nottignham

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi PansyPetal

I cannot see a death for a John Richards in Nottingham (of the right age) between 1891 and 1905 on FreeBMD.

The only suicide I have come across so far is this one:

Nottingham Evening Post Nottinghamshire, England
26 Oct 1903

SUICIDE AT CARLTON
permanent situation. óJohn English, aged 19. employed in printing work 3 at Gedling, said that was with the deceased all Saturday evening. They were in : the Albion. Sneinton Market until ten minutes to o'clock, and they walked homo to Carlton; they were both

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I don't have a sub so I don't know who the victim was??

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Giggsy

I'll try and search the full article to see if it could be.

I've tried every combination I can think of to use to try and find.

I have also struggled to find a possible death.

Its abit of a mystery

Thanks again

Heather


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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him?
Newspaper article from 23 feb 1899
Supposed suicide of a ckub steward

Last night, john richards, steward of the penga?  Conservative club was found dead in his office with a bottle of carbokic acid by his side.

There are two deaths in nottinghamshire on free bmd for march quarter 1899. One is aged 27 mansfield district and the other is aged 68, basford district so not sure with one it relates to. Where was he living in 1891 and not sure where the penga consevative club is. The typing was a bit blurry so im not sure if it says penga. Will try to find out.

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 23:14 GMT (UK) »
I think its penge

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Burial Brinsley
28 Feb 1899 John Richards aged 68 abode Underwood. In the notes it says
 "Cor War." I have NO idea what this means.

Sadly the 27 year old's burial is not on NFHS
 ??? would he have been buried in a Churchyard, in 1899, if he committed suicide  ???
www.deceasedonline.com
There are only 4 burials for a John Richards in Nottinghamshire between 1891 and 1905
29 Nov 1897--6 Dec 1902--26 May 1904--9 Dec 1905. You would need credits to view.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 15:49 GMT (UK) »
The John Richards who died at the Penge Conservative & Unionist Club in 1899 was reported in the press as being 52 years old. His widow was named as Mary Ann Richards.
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 15:54 GMT (UK) »
The only suicide I have come across so far is this one:

Nottingham Evening Post Nottinghamshire, England
26 Oct 1903

SUICIDE AT CARLTON

This article relates to a Samuel Bell.
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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Re: John Richards Suicide Nottingham
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Burial Brinsley
28 Feb 1899 John Richards aged 68 abode Underwood. In the notes it says
 "Cor War." I have NO idea what this means.

I think it means Coroner's Warrant. Some discussion here:

https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/25504-Buried-Under-Coroner-s-Warrant
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham