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Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« on: Wednesday 07 March 18 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I’m having trouble finding the father of Pemberton children born in Birmingham.  The mum was called Sarah (maiden name not known, born abr 1792 (Bolas, Newport?) Shropshire).

We know of 3 daughters, but cant find their birth records (and dont know if they have siblings)

-  Hannah Maria b 1817 Birmingham m Marmaduke William Osborne in Birmingham 1839. I’m hoping someone is happy to look through records and find the marriage details for info on her dad.  I dont know which church they were married at. The details are not on ancestry.

- Rebecca b 1824 m Edgebaston, Warwickshire AND Kings Norton, Worcester 1853. The Edgbaston record has the fathers details missing but maybe someone can look them up in Kings Norton Register?

- Sarah Louisa - born 1830 (not married)

We only know of their existence through census details.

Any help gratefully received :)

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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 March 18 17:12 GMT (UK) »
I'm not finding much either.
I think you may need to get the 1839 marriage cert.
I see in 1851 the mother is supporting herself although listed as married.
It's possible she wasn't.
It's also possible they were Catholic or non-Conformist & that's why you can't find the Baptisms.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 March 18 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim1
Thanks for trying.  Were you looking online or at records in the records office?

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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 March 18 08:13 GMT (UK) »
I can't see anything online, I fear you may have to buy that 1839 certificate  ;)
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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 March 18 10:13 GMT (UK) »
What's online is pretty much what they have at B'ham Library. Catholic records are held by St. Chad's Cathedral B'ham.
Registry Office marriages are held by the GRO.
The 1839 marriage is the next step.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 March 18 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I agree the 1839 M/C is a must to buy.

Having said that the Pembertons in general seem to be a wealthy Family.

Burials;
Old Meeting House, Birmingham
MARY Pemberton 08 Nov 1817 age 73, note; Vault no 2 
THOS Pemberton 27 Mar 1830 age 54, note; Vault 12
EDWIN Pemberton 7 Aug 1851 age 68, abode Hagley Road, note: Buried family vault No 1 1st row Old Ground

Edwin is a widower, proprietor of houses in 1851 Census.

From a bit of googling on the Old Meeting House it appears they were Quakers.

Trish :)
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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 March 18 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi
There's
Sarah Gittens and Joseph Pemberton 20.8.1816 at St Chads Shrewsbury.(they have their children West Felton so not them).
Sarah Hughes marrying 1.1.1821 James Pemberton at Aston juxta
Sarah Halfpenny and William Pemberton 25.8.1822 Aston juxta.
 Sarah Bate marrying a Thomas Pemberton at Edgbaston 8.10.1827.

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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 March 18 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Also a number of wills. They all seem to be related one way or another.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Pemberton family in Birmingham early 1830s
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 March 18 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your efforts.  Greatly appreciated!!  I checked out the marriages but from what I can find none of the potential wives were born at the right place.  Good tip about the quakers and catholics, and knowing that there’s nothing extra at the archives for B’ham than what is online.  I’ve checked out what wills I can but none are quite right.

Thank you again!!