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Re: Wedding Group Powell 1855-1915
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 March 18 17:54 GMT (UK) »
I'm going to put the cat amongst them again & say they don't look like miners to me & that's not a miners cottage behind.
They look rather well to do.
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Re: Wedding Group Powell 1855-1915
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 March 18 19:34 GMT (UK) »
What was he occupation of Mary Ann's second husband?

Also, were any of the family 'better off' than they were?  They might have been posed outside their house.


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Re: Wedding Group Powell 1855-1915
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 10 March 18 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Second spouse (Henry James Bailey born approx. 1861) is located with his wife in Van Road Caerphilly at the time of the last census. He is listed as a wood surveyor at this time.
In 1913 there is a death registered in Pontypridd district for his wife Martha.
At the time of his marriage on 8th August 1917, he is listed as a sawyer, place of residence is Caerphilly.

Wdytya's earlier post, says he has a death year for Mary Ann of 1842 recorded in family notes - there is a death registered in Chepstow for a Mary A Bailey aged 84; this would fit with a birth year of 1857 and an age of second marriage in 1917 of 60.

They are marrying in the parish church at Machen, so this is only three miles from her residence in Bedwas (with her first husband) at the time of the last census.

The photo doesn't look like it is directly outside Machen church, but maybe very near  :) so need a terraced house with a bay window and matching railings !!

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Re: Wedding Group Powell 1855-1915
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 10 March 18 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Having done some further online research I found two items of information that clarifies some of the questions about where the wedding breakfast took place and also the question that the house was too grand for a miners family. The first is a newspaper report of the wedding which states ....."At the wedding of Mrs Mary Ann Powell with Mr James Bailey both of whom are 60 years of age, in Lower Machen Church, the bride was given away by her son Mr William Powell and the bridesmaid was her grand daughter Miss W Powell. The wedding breakfast was provided at the home of her son in Pengam Garden Village."

PENGAM GARDEN VILLAGE. < THE WORKERS' PARADISE. Before the war, when the housing question was such an urgent one in South Wales, a large Garden Village scheme was started at Pengam, in the centre of the Rhymney Valley. The scheme is now nearing completion over 400 houses are already finished, and another 100 will be completed very shortly. It is one of the largest schemes attempted in South Wales, or, in fact, in the country. It is situated on a slight eminence near Pengam and Blackwood railway stations. The position is an ideal one it gives a commanding and unobstructed view of the surrounding country, is well drained, and has a good water supply. The houses are built in various designs and sizes. and a hot and cold water service. Gas is laid on to each house, and everything done to make the houses convenient and up-to-date also, what is very important, a good stretch of ground is provided at the rear, and a small flower garden plot in the front of each house. It is un- doubtedly one of the cleanest and best laid out villages in the country. Although situated in the centre of a big industrial area, and; therefore near all the industries where the tenants might be em- ployed, yet it is so placed that no smoke or grime from the works gets near it. Near to the village is the new Britannia Colliery of the Powell Duffryn Company one of the largest and up-to-date pits in South Wales. There is no need for those engaged in the mining industry to live in long, dingy and monotonous streets when they can now be housed in dwellings which are models in design and accommodation, and in a district where everything is done that can be done to make their lives happy and pleasant. The rents of the houses vary from 6 /6 to 8 /6 per week. In addition to the erection of the houses, a new school for 600 children has just been erected in the centre of the village by the Monmouthshire County Council, and will be opened in two or three weeks' time. Near the school, also in the centre of the village, is a shopping centre where a number of shops are nearing completion. These are now for sale, or will be let to suitable tenants. We understand that applications are now being received from workmen and others desirous of living in the village. Those who succeed in obtaining a house will be fortunate. From a health point of view there is certainly no better spot in South Wales. The scheme is an object lesson to housing reformers, and marks a big step forward in the laying out of mining villages. Those desirous of renting or purchasing a house or shop should apply to the Secretary, Mr. J. Edwards, Britannia Villa, Pengam; or Messrs. Welsh Garden Cities, Ltd:, 3, Dumfries Place, Cardiff.
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Re: Wedding Group Powell 1855-1915
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 10 March 18 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Well done wdytya !!!!!
I wonder if any other images exist of Garden Village Pengam
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Massey, Munkley, Powell, Thompson, Thurkettle

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