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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:44 GMT (UK) »

I believe the John Jenkins referenced (1911 living at 79 Coity Road, Bridgend) is my great-great grandfather
Born around 1870, appearing in Wales census in 1871, 1881
Coming to USA sometime between 1881 and returning to Wales before 1900. 
Married with wife and kids in USA.  Returned to Wales; second wife and kids in Wales. 
William Austin Jenkins would be his first from his second wife (Margaret)
Would love to prove my hunch and help.
I believe my John Jenkins was born in Kenfig Hills around 1870-1874 and came to the United States in the mid 1800s. 

He would have married Patience Bubble and had 3-5 children here in the USA. 
Walter Jenkins, William Jenkins, Nelena Jenkins, and George Jenkins. 

I believe he returned to Wales between 1897 and 1900

I believe John's parents were William Jenkins and Margaret Morgans. 

I know he had a brother Thomas, a brother Evan, and a sister Mary, among others

I also believe he had an Uncle Rees Jenkins and an Uncle Evan Jenkins.  I believe Rees was a famous miner who lived in South Wales.

Have you found John Jenkins on a passenger list going to US and returning to UK?

When did he marry Patience Bubble and do you have John & Patience m/c confirming his father’s name and their occupations?

John & Patience nee Bubble son William Jenkins born 16 Jan 1891 Wyoming Luz, Pennsylvania

1900 US census Patience Jenkins is noted as widowed she is with her three children
William, Hellena & Walter

1910 US census Patience has remarried John E Williams, her three children
William, Nellena & Walter are with them plus dau Myrtle

Do you have John Jenkins on any UK censuses with his parents & siblings Thomas, Evan & Mary?
If so, can you give the reference numbers please

John Jenkins' occupation on 1901/1911 UK census is Assurance Agent/Insurance Assist Supt.

I haven't been able to find him on a passenger list  ???

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 17:22 GMT (UK) »
I have John Jenkins arriving in the Port of New York on the ship Alsatia on December 16, 1881 at the age of 9.  He arrived with Mary, his mother age 40; David his brother Age 18, Mary his sister, Age 14, Edward his brother Age 11, Evan his brother Age 4, Thomas his brother Age 5, and Elizabeth, his sister, who was an infant.  His father William Jenkins did not travel with the family and did not appear on the ship manifest.  I have proven that this family on the manifest is definitely my ancestors.

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 17:27 GMT (UK) »
I have found my Jenkins Family in the 1881 Census for Wales.  It appears the census was taken earlier in the year, before they left for the USA.  Civil Parish Llantrisant, Rural Sanitary District of Pontypridd.  Looks like #141 appears on the top, Page 37.  No. 153 Gilfach Goch.  William Jenkins, head, Age 43, Coal Miner born in Neath.  Margaret Jenkins, Wife, Age 37, born in Kenfig Hill.  Son David Jenkins Age 19, Coal Miner, born in Kenfig Hill, Daughter Mary Jenkins Age 16, Servant, born in Kenfig Hill, Son Edward, Age 15, Coal Miner, born in Kenfig Hill; Son John Jenkins, Age 13, Coal Miner, born in Kenfig Hill; Son Evan Jenkins, Age 9, Scholar born in Kenfig Hill; Thomas Jenkins, Age 8, Scholar born in Kenfig Hill; Elizabeth Jenkins, Age 2 Weeks, born in Gilfach Goch.


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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 17:29 GMT (UK) »
The same line - William, Margaret, David, Mary, Evan and John - also appear in the 1871 Census for Wales.  Looks like Civil Parish Pyble.  Ecclesastical District of Landuff?  Page 15

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 17:32 GMT (UK) »
It appears John's father arrived in the USA a few months earlier than the rest of the family in 1881.

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 17:34 GMT (UK) »
I can find no record of John Returning to Wales.  I have been able to narrow down his departure based on when his children here in the USA were born and when his wife Patience was found living without John.  There is no documented marriage license for John and Patience. 

Patience and John had at least four children: George, William, Walter and Nelena.  The United States Census for 1900 infers that Patience Jenkins had five children, three of whom are living (William, Walter and Nelena).  It appears a fifth child was born and died prior to 1900.

Based upon information passed down by family members and based on information available, it appears John Jenkins returned to Wales sometime between 1897 and 1900.  The obituary for his brother Evan W. Jenkins on July 19, 1901 indicates John Jenkins is a resident of Wales. Family lore has John remarrying upon returning to Wales and rearing additional children.

The United States Census for 1900 shows Patience Jenkins residing children William, Nelina and Walter Jenkins along with Holliday (Huldah) Walker and Bob Walker, her son, in Miners Mills, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.  It is believed Huldah Walker is Patience’s grandmother.

I do have detailed information on some of John's siblings if that is helpful.

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the extra detail - I was able to find the passenger list with the extra info. you gave  :)

address in 1881 Gilfach Coch Llantrisant
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-WBC5
William Jenkins   Head      43   Neath, Glamorganshire
Margaret Jenkins   Wife   37   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
David Jenkins   Son      19   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
Mary Jenkins   Daughter   16   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
Edward Jenkins   Son      15   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
John Jenkins   Son      13   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
Evan Jenkins   Son      9   Kenfighill, Glamorganshires
Thomas Jenkins   Son      8   Kenfighill, Glamorganshire
Elizabeth Jenkins Daughter   0   Gilfach Coch, Glamorganshire

Is this a possibility for your John Jenkins a boarder in Llantrisant and is noted as married

Piece: 5009 Folio: 71 Page 32
13 Library Road Llantrisant
John Lloyd   62
Margaret Lloyd   41
Harry Lloyd   22
Sarah Lloyd   13
John Lloyd   11
Liza Lloyd   6
Griffith Morgan   55
John Jenkins   31 Kenfig Hill occ coal hewer marital status ‘M’ (Language both Welsh/English)
Thomas Hurley   16
Henry Griffiths   15

Will take a look either later or tomorrow to see if I can find anything else

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 12 February 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
On the 1911 Census John Jenkin states "married 11 years"

Marriage Registration
John Jenkins, Mar Qtr 1900, Bridgend, 11a 988 - on the same page Margaret James

Birth Registration
William Austin Jenkins, Mar Qtr 1901, Bridgend, 11a 859 - mother's maiden name James
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: William Austin Jenkins
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 12 February 20 17:53 GMT (UK) »

Marriage Registration
John Jenkins, Mar Qtr 1900, Bridgend, 11a 988 - on the same page Margaret James

Birth Registration
William Austin Jenkins, Mar Qtr 1901, Bridgend, 11a 859 - mother's maiden name James

Just to say the above information already posted at reply 7 but may have been missed as that was back in 2018  :)