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Robert Howling 1837
« on: Monday 19 March 18 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi
i have robert parents and found him on 1851Census

1851
Edgefield

Robert Howling 39  Ag Lab          Brameston wood End
Lydia 39                                    Edgefield
Robert      13       Ag lab             Edgefield
Frederick  10         Ag lab             Edgefield
David        8         Scholar             Edgefield
Matilda 4                                    Edgefield
Sarah Jacobs 75 Wid Mother in law  Pauper  ( ag lab ) Edgefield

christening 25 june 1837 edgefield
parents
robert howling 1812-1856
lydia jacobs 1811-1852

i am trying to find out a bit more about him

i have found a robert on 1851 1861 census  born elmham norfolk
but as my robert is with parents 1851 i dont think this is him

thank you

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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 March 18 11:27 GMT (UK) »
1841 Census in case you dont have it?

Robert Herrling, 27
Lydia Herrling, 30
John Herrling, 7
Robert Herrling, 4
Frederick Herrling, 1
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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 March 18 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Deaths

Robert Howling Dec 1856 Erpingham 4b 42 age 45

Lydia Howling Mar 1852 Erpingham 4b 53 age 40

I can find David Howling in 1861 working as a Farm Servant in Stody, Erpingham and Frederick Howling in 1871 lodging in White Lion Street, Holt, Erpingham. He is a Drover.

I cannot find anything for Robert or his sister Matilda.

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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 March 18 11:50 GMT (UK) »
This Robert H appears to marry Dec 1861;

Robert Howling   24, born 1837 North Elmham, Norfolk.
Lodging in living Mattishall Burgh.

FreeREG has the Marriage 1 Nov 1861 East Dereham to Elizabeth WILSON, name his Father as ROBERT, Occp Labourer
Robrts jnrs abode is Mattishall Burgh 
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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 March 18 12:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi thank you
i did not have 1841 census

the marriage 1861
seems to fit better to the other robert  born elmham market
i can follow them through to 1901

on 1851 i have my robert living edgefield
and the other robert living in Mattishal  a servent    born elmham market

so i am thinking 2 roberts similar age  i did notice the father was robert but as my robert ( father ) was dead

i am thinking edgefield and elmham market  are not that close together in norfolk

the only other thing i noticed was a death 1854 of a robert
looks like several of the children died around that time
all the same illness or was there an event they all died in ?

i did also notice that both lydia jacobs anad sister elizabeth married  howling men
elizabeth jacob married john howling  poss 1835
were the two howling men brothers

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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 March 18 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Robert Wells Howling bapt Bramerton 25 January 1813 parents John, a Publican, and Mary
John Howling baptised Bramerton 1815 parents John, a Publican, and Mary nee Chastney

Lydia Jacobs baptised 6 April 1811 Edgefield Jeremiah and Sarah nee Hagon
Lydia has two sisters Ann 1806 and Mary 1809 but can't see an Elizabeth

Baptisms are on FreeReg

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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 March 18 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I think you need to be careful here as there are two Robert Howlings of much the same age. I don't think the Robert Howling   24, born 1837 North Elmham, Norfolk is yours.
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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 March 18 13:55 GMT (UK) »
 The 1854 Death Reg;
HOWLINGS, ROBERT, age 16**
GRO Reference: 1854  M Quarter in ERPINGHAM  Volume 04B  Page 45
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Re: Robert Howling 1837
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 18 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree the Robert that married Elizabeth Wilson is not yours. I just posted for elimination purposes but forgot to say that!

This appears to be the one who married Elizabeth Wilson, living in North Elmham 1841;
Robert Howling,   M   25-29   Norfolk
Mary Howling,   F   25-29   Norfolk
Robert Howling, M   6   Norfolk
Hannah Howling, F   3   Norfolk
Thomas Howling,M   2   Norfolk
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