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John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 16:17 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if anyone can help me find John & Frances Thomas in the 1911 Census. I have found them in the others census's but I am unable to find them on any of the usual sites in 1911.
I can see by their obituaries they were alive then.

This is some of the information in the 1901 census RG 13/5108
John Thomas b 1856 Innkeeper (Red Cow) & Colliery Bankman.Born Llandebie
Frances Thomas 1855 Wife Born Llandebie
Elizabeth Thomas 1883 daughter Born Llandebie
William S Thomas 1884 Son Colliery banksman Born Llandebie
David ?I Thomas Son 1890 Born Llandebie
Frances Thomas 1895 Born Llandebie
Catherine Harries 1833 Mother-in-law Born Llandebie

Any help gratefully recieved.

Thank you.

Judy
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Where were they living in 1901
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 18:07 GMT (UK) »
The Red Cow Inn Llandebie. (Llandybie) Carmarthan.
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 18:15 GMT (UK) »
London Evening Standard 02 December 1893 has a Receiving order for John Thomas, Haulier & Innkeeper of that address
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes, thanks. I don't think he was much of a business man!!! Apparently looking at the article he didn't keep any accounts.
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 March 18 12:13 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if they avoided being on the Census some how.
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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 March 18 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Frances Thomas was buried 7/7/1904 Llandebie. She died at Carmarthen Asylum, home address The Red Cow.

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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 March 18 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Given that Frances had been in an Institute and died 1904 a possible match is John Thomas born 1856 Llandebie, Colliery Night Banksman above ground. Wife Mary Anne Thomas born 1867 Haverfordwest. Two daughters Maudi born 1904 & Gwendoline May born 1906 living at Llandebie.

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Re: John & Frances Thomas in 1911 Census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 March 18 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ellenmai,
Thank you very much for the information. That is very interesting.
I had got a copy of Frances's Memorial Inscription and it has her death date out by 10 years - dying in 1924 instead of 1904. What a difference 10 years makes.

I had seen John Thomas whose wife was Mary Anne and because of the above had discounted them. But I think you are right - it is him. Thank you.
Looks like he didn't leave much time before having children with his new wife.

Could you tell me where you got the information about Frances from please.

Many Thanks.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey