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Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« on: Saturday 24 March 18 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Any information about these from anyone. North Shields area around 1770 - 1840
Son Robert, mariner  who lived in Bell St North Shields.

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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 March 18 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Just adding marriage to give some idea of area/date for those trying to help :-\
Matthew Richardson
Barbara Fenwick
08 Apr 1788
Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland

We really need you to tell us what sort of information you require so we don't spend time looking for what you already have  ;)
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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 March 18 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not expanding. The marriage is the only thing I know & the fact they had a son Robert. The Richardson name is so common in the area and I cannot work out how and if they are connected, with the records that are available online.
 I have Roberts & Janes children from Christ church records. I know he was a mariner & have census records for 1841 & 1851. I think he dies 1851, but cannot prove it. The only marriage of Robert & Jane Rochester I can find is in Shadwell.
Once jane & family arrive in Australia - have all the info.

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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 March 18 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Where does the name Rochester come from.

There is this marriage which would tie in with Merchant seamans records for a Robert Richardson

Robert Richardson
Age   21
Residence parish   Hull
Licence date   24 Jul 1830
Intended marriage place   St Mary, Hull
Jane White
age   21
parish   North Shields

It would be a good idea for you to give us the 1841 & 1851 census information you have
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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 March 18 10:37 GMT (UK) »
So this is them 1841 in Tynemouth?


Robert Richardson, 40, Seaman
Jane Richardson, 40
Matthew Richardson, 15
Elizabeth Richardson, 8
Robinson Richardson, 5
Jane Richardson, 3

Birth Reg GRO Index;
RICHARDSON, JANE  ANN, Mothers mn ROCHESTER***
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH UNION  Volume 25  Page 296

Big gap in childrens ages there, 2 Marriages?

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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 March 18 10:50 GMT (UK) »
BAPTISM;
29 Aug 1798, Christ Church, Tynemouth
ROBT Richardsom, Parents MATTW/BARBARA nee Fenwick
Abod N Shields
Fathers Occp Shoemaker
3rd son" " Mattw. Native of Morpeth" " Barbara native of Gateshead
Siblings same Church;
BARBARA 20 Jul 1794
MATT 15 May 1796, buried 20 Mar 1797

MAT Richardson Bapt 18 Jul 1762 same Church, Father ROBT, occp Blacksmith
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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 March 18 11:13 GMT (UK) »
1798 Robert must have died as FreeREG has a ROBERT Bapt 02 Jul 1800 same Parents, Fathers occp, 4th Son.

1851 Census Robert R is born c 1799 Tynemouth
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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 March 18 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all SO MUCH

Yes  the census are correct, and gaps in childrens age is due to births & deaths 1832 - 1841.
the thing that bothers me is why was the marriage in Shadwell in london?
I know he was a mariner and it was a port, but why was she there? and their first child was born that I can find 8 years later.  There is a birth to a Robert, but he is still there much later, so wrong family.
Everyone seems to say this was the marriage and he could have been away for years at a time, so just accept it. But I just wonder was there a marriage locally and no one has come across it.
Does anyone know where I can get mariner records from? Sent an email away to museum in Newcastle about 8 weeks ago and still no reply.

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Re: Mathew Richardson & Barbara Fenwick NEW
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 March 18 06:55 BST (UK) »
Baptisms in Tynemouth Christ Church that are probably your Robert and Jane family


John Rochester Richardson baptised 31 Aug 1823 s/o Robert and Jane, North Shields, mariner
Matthew Richardson baptised 4 Aug 1829 s/o Robert and Jane, North Shields, mariner
Elizabeth Rochester Richardson baptised 1 Jul 1832 d/o Robert and Jane Ropery Stairs, mariner
Robertson Richardson baptised 8 Mar 1835 s/o Robert and Jane, North Shields, mariner
Jane Ann Richardson baptised 15 Oct 1837, born 1 Oct d/o Robert and Jane, Ropery Stairs, mariner

There was another Robert and Jane but Robert was a blacksmith

Janis



Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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