Hanna-Anderson family in Bangor/Newtownards area

[brfoster]

Hi all,

Greetings from Australia. I am trying to find out more about my ancestors from Co. Down

David HANNA was born on 29/6/1834 in Ballymagee Bangor. He married Margaret ANDERSON from Newtownards in 1863. She was born about 1839.

David's father was Daniel HANNA and was a glassblower. Margaret's parents were John ANDERSON and possibly(?) Margaret STINSON.

David and Margaret HANNA had a son John HANNA who was born on 20/08/1867. John HANNA emigrated to Australia in 1886.

In Australia, John HANNA married Jane STAC(E)Y on 10/10/1893. Their first child, Florence May HANNA was my maternal grandmother.

Any information or suggestions about David HANNA's family or Margaret ANDERSON's family would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Brian FOSTER

[gaffy]

... David HANNA was born on 29/6/1834 in Ballymagee Bangor.

... David's father was Daniel HANNA and was a glassblower.

What is the source of these 2 bits of information?  The reason I ask is that David's father's surname doesn't look like Hanna on the image of the 1863 civil marriage registration, it looks something more like Daniel McKee.

For deciphering see below, I'm fairly content that the forename is Daniel rather than David.

[brfoster]

Hi Gaffy,

Thanks for your quick reply.

I can't put my hand on the source of David HANNA's birth information but will have another look for it.

But I did find a transcript of his marriage certificate on the Ulster Historical Foundation website. Please see attached copy.

Obviously I haven't been able to see the image of the original so I can't comment on the "McKee" aspect.

What is your interest in David HANNA and Margaret ANDERSON? Are you a descendant also? I would appreciate it if you could share whatever information you have?

I have only just started doing family history research again after a long break of about 6 or 7 years.

Cheers,
Brian Foster
(Australia)

[aghadowey]

Transcripts aren't always accurate and some can be absolutely misleading or misinterpreted.

I agree with gaffy on father's name Daniel McKee.

Irish marriage certificates do NOT list place of birth. Th places given for bride and groom are where they were living at the time of the marriage. This may, or may not, be where they were born or where their families were living.

Marriage certificates also do NOT list the religion or bride and groom- this sources has assumed their religion based on the place where the marriage took place. Marriages usually take place in the bride's church.

[brfoster]

Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for your advice.

As I live in Australia, I don't have access to original documents and have to rely on whatever information I can find online.

I would be very grateful if you could advise me where I should be looking for the correct information.

Cheers,
Brian Foster

[aghadowey]

Children of David Hanna & Margaret Anderson- civil registration of births started in 1864 so could be older children-
Robert Hanna (21 July 1865)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03566/2313864.pdf
John Hanna (20 Aug.1867)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03478/2278229.pdf

Checking a few more places...

[aghadowey]

David Hanna (c1843-1913), farmer, m.(c1873) Jane Anderson (c1844) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11283/8139386.pdf (father Daniel Hanna, labourer)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Bangor/Corporation/1251671
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Bangor/Corporation/260225 (1911- m.38yrs 5 children/4 living)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05346/4489385.pdf
Probate of the Will of David Hanna late of Bangor Corporation County Down Farmer who died 20 January 1913 granted at Belfast to William Weatherup and George Hanna Farmers. Effects £459 17s. 6d.
1. George Hanna (26 in 1901-1956)
Hanna George of The Demesne Bangor county Down retired farmer died 29 February 1956 Probate Belfast 30 April to John Currell farmer. Effects £1404 18s. 8d.
2. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Hanna (22 in 1901-1955)
Hanna Elizabeth of The Demesne Bangor county Down spinster died 21 February 1955 Probate Belfast 15 July to Mary Hanna spinster and John Currell farmer. Effects £482 15s.
3. Margaret "Maggie" Hanna (19 in 1901-1965) m.(1919) John Currell (d.1922)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09673/5508036.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09682/5511826.pdf
Currell John of Upper Balloo county Down farmer died 11 November 1922 Probate Belfast 22 January to George Hanna farmer and Margaret Currell widow. Effects £209 5s.
Currell, Margaret of Bangor Demesne Bangor county Down widow died 1 May 1965 Probate Belfast 26 July to John Currell farmer. Effects £665.
4. Isabella Hanna (1883-1905)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02740/2007604.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05605/4576015.pdf
5. Mary Hanna (14 in 1901-1953)
Hanna, Mary of Bangor Demesne Bangor county Down spinster died 14 November 1963 at Ards Hospital Newtownards county Down Probate Belfast 23 January to John Currell farmer Charles Neill director and William Cooper Stewart solicitor. Effects £6493 11s.

[gaffy]

... What is your interest in David HANNA and Margaret ANDERSON? Are you a descendant also? I would appreciate it if you could share whatever information you have?

No, I'm not related, I just noticed that the father's surname in the civil marriage registration didn't really look at all like Hanna, you can view the digitised image on the website of the General Register Office (Northern Ireland), it's pay to view:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Edited to add: Just an observation, but glass blowers were not thick on the ground, having said that, I'm struggling to capitalise on that in terms of identifying Daniel McKee.  There were McKees in Ballyholme and Ballymagee (source: PRONI Will Calendars), but I can't gain traction on a Daniel, let alone one who was a glassblower.

[aghadowey]

I thought a glassblower would have been easy to spot also. Wonder if the Daniel McKee on the marriage record should be Daniel Hanna and the wrong surname was written down (I've come across similar problems a few times in marriage registers)