Peagum family

[JoannaP]

The John Pegum b 1886 was my grandfather. I don’t have an Emily in my tree, I’m afraid.

[alexreg]

The John Pegum b 1886 was my grandfather. I don’t have an Emily in my tree, I’m afraid.

Thanks for the information anyway. Do you happen to have any John Pegum's further back in your family tree? I'm starting to suspect Peagum was not the surname she was born with perhaps, but rather adopted it.

[JoannaP]

Sure! John’s father was James b 1849, and his father was Stephen b 1805. After that I’m guessing though my best guess is Thomas born around 1780. Stephen had a brother, Thomas born around 1802.

[alexreg]

Sure! John’s father was James b 1849, and his father was Stephen b 1805. After that I’m guessing though my best guess is Thomas born around 1780. Stephen had a brother, Thomas born around 1802.

Thanks Joanna. That means James could just about be Emily's father, if he was about 20-21 when she was born. The name "John" for her father on her marriage certificate is still unexplained though, as is lack of any baptismal record...

[alexreg]

I did a bit more searching today, and turned up a couple of tentative candidates...

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=15844927&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3372&_phstart=successSource

George Peagam b. 1839
Pros: right age to be Emily's father, clearly a mariner
Cons: wrong name according to marriage record (should be John), born in Devon (no evidence suggesting *he* wasn't, although we have records suggesting Emily was born in Limerick, Ireland)

This may be clutching at straws, but Emily also had a son named George. And her grandfather and an uncle were both named William, so perhaps a connection to Emily's daughter's name 'Wilhelmina'. William is a common name, George slightly less (as far as I know), and Wilhelmina much less so. I'm also wondering if Emily could have named George as her father but the scribe misheard? I mean, they at least have the same initial sound... yep, I'm trying hard to make excuses here.

Then a few records from https://www.myheritage.com/names/john_pegum. Sadly I can't view the full information, as I don't have a membership. If anyone could help me out here, I would be much obliged.

John Thomas Pegum, 1867 - 1934
John Thomas Pegum was born on month day 1867, at birth place, to George Pegum and Bridget Pegum (born O'Sullivan).
George was born on October 1 1839, in Limerick.
Bridget was born on ABT1851 1833, in Co. Limerick.
John had 3 sisters: Josephine (?) Pegum and 2 other siblings.

^ I am wondering if one of his siblings could be Emily. Also, just perhaps his father George Peagum could be the Devon one mentioned above?

John William Pegum, 1879 - 1960
John William Pegum was born on month day 1879, to Charles Pegum and Elizabeth Pegum (born Grim).
Elizabeth was born on April 6 1856.
John had 4 siblings: Edith Pegum and 3 other siblings.

^ Could Emily be one of his siblings perhaps?

John Jr. Pegum
John Jr. Pegum was born to John William Pegum and Martha Mattie Pegum (born Brinkman).
John was born on January 11 1879.
Martha was born on April 18 1889.
John had 4 siblings: Evangeline Edith Olson (born Pegum) and 3 other siblings.

^ Could Emily be one of his siblings perhaps?

So, if anyone has a MyHeritage membership, and could perhaps investigate these leads, I would be much obliged!

[alexreg]

Following up to the George Peagam (first person of previous post), I uncovered some other interesting records:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3145&h=43180293&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3398&_phstart=successSource
Name:   George S Peagam
Publication Year:   1877
Address:   15 Bradshaw St. Gt. Cheatham
Residence Place:   Lancashire, England
Occupation:   Traveller

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3145&h=43180293&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3398&_phstart=successSource
Name:   George Peagam
Publication Year:   1879
Address:   231 Liverpool St. Salford
Residence Place:   Lancashire, England
Occupation:   Traveller

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6820&h=387849&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3398&_phstart=successSource
Name:   George Saml Peagam
Event Date:   6 Jul 1886
Event Place:   Manchester, Lancashire, England
Session:   Michaelmas
Quarter Session Place:   Manchester
Record Type:   Petitions
Year Range:   1886
Reference Information:   QSP 4235/1-189

So, evidently a George Samuel Peagam was living in souther Lancashire (first Cheatham, then Salford) in the late 1870s and 1880s. The job description "traveller" is rather curious, I must say. Although this is not Liverpool (more the suburbs of modern Manchester), these places are of course very close to Liverpool. A possible reason for Emily living there (from at least 1887 as we know)?

Other records, less likely to be of interest:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1904&h=4503088&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3398&_phstart=successSource
Name:   George Cole Peagam
Death Date:   10 Feb 1878
Death Place:   Devon, England
Probate Date:   30 Mar 1878

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1904&h=17410631&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3398&_phstart=successSource
Name:   George Peagam
Death Date:   23 Aug 1940
Death Place:   Devonshire, England
Probate Date:   14 Feb 1941
Registry:   Oxford, England

Anyway, I think this George Peagum link is an interesting one, even if it's far from conclusive yet... what do you guys think?

[heywood]

George Peagam b abt 1827 Plymouth

1881 living in Manchester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27P-C6MQ

1871 visiting his brother, perhaps. No children with him.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFT4-5DK

I can’t find him on FS in 1861 but here is the reference 1861 2969/95/2

He is a commercial traveller with no children apparently.

[alexreg]

George Peagam b abt 1827 Plymouth

1881 living in Manchester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27P-C6MQ

1871 visiting his brother, perhaps. No children with him.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFT4-5DK

I can’t find him on FS in 1861 but here is the reference 1861 2969/95/2

He is a commercial traveller with no children apparently.

Thanks for that info. Evidently not the same Peagum as the one born in 1839 and in the Royal Navy (also born in Devon). So I'd definitely be interested in more records on him still... sadly can't find any.

[heywood]

Your links don’t work- they just go to ancestry search page so I don’t know what you are linking to unfortunately.
However, there is a George Peagam born abt 1839, South Molton, Devon in the Navy in 1861.
I can only see him in censuses 1841 , 1851 and 1861.