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Offline Mark Harris

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Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:14 BST (UK) »
I've been looking at a certain branch of this dis-organised family and I've now come across a Joseph who seems to be married three times!
Joseph Haszell b.1839 in Ipswich, moves to London and then:

marriage 1:   1863   East London, London, Joseph Haszell to Fanny Taylor but he never lived with her as she stays with her father.

marriage 2:       1866   Shoreditch, London, Ann Huggins to Joseph Haszell

marriage 3:   1868   Chelmsford, Essex, to Deborah Green. I think the census shows he lived with her.

I'm sure its the same Joseph Haszell, could you get divorced so easily then? I am really confused with this one, do I need to order all three certificates. Any advice as ever greatly appreciated.


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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:21 BST (UK) »
First marriage -

Joseph Harzell, full age , Engine Driver
25 May 1863, St Botolph without Bishopsgate, City of London
Father - Joseph Hartzell. Hair Dresser
Spouse - Fanny Taylor
Spouse's father's name -
Wits - James Thomas Taylor & Matilda Haszell?

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:26 BST (UK) »
Marriage 2 -

Joseph married Harriet J Moyle -

Joseph Haszell, Boot Maker
Age - 23
29 Sep 1866, St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Father - James Haszell, Gentleman Servant
Spouse - Harriot Jane Moyle

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Added - This person has a different father than the one above and also he has a different occupation. So it would appear not to be the same man.

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:30 BST (UK) »
Quote from: JJen on Saturday 31 March 18 18:26 BST (UK)
Marriage 2 -

Joseph married Harriet J Moyle -

Joseph Haszell, Boot Maker
Age - 23
29 Sep 1866, St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Father - James Haszell, Gentleman Servant
Spouse - Harriot Jane Moyle

JJ

Yes (he was a bachelor). Doesn’t look like the same man as the first marriage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:32 BST (UK) »
Josephs dad was also called Joseph and was a hairdresser from Ipswich1

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:34 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mark Harris on Saturday 31 March 18 18:32 BST (UK)
Josephs dad was also called Joseph and was a hairdresser from Ipswich1

So that ties in with the first marriage but not the second.

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:38 BST (UK) »
Three kids with Fanny, one died at birth, David 1866.
Second one doesn't seem right to me.

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:39 BST (UK) »
On the Banns (1868) of Joseph Haszell and Deborah Green he is recorded as a bachelor.

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 March 18 18:44 BST (UK) »
Has he lied..? Can you lie..?
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