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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 07:35 BST (UK) »
Oh,  Hi Lady Di ....  :)

Ummm.... May I speculate ..... perhaps the first marriage was negatived or at least considered as negatived by the parties/or the minor's legal representatives prior to conjugal rights actually occurring AFTER the 1863 marriage ceremony?

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 09:59 BST (UK) »
Err it appears that Fanny may have been rather swell (like 7 months) at the time of her marriage

Interesting to see that Fanny's next child (1866) was called David CHILDS Hazsell. Mother's maiden name not recorded/shown on GRO online index.



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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:01 BST (UK) »
In 1871 there is a David Childs age 32 living with his wife and daughter in Chase side, Enfield, the same road Fanny is living in.....

Has anyone found Florence's birth reg?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:13 BST (UK) »
Found Florence I think
Florence  Adelaide Haszell Harford      mmn Taylor 
Q3 1875  WESTMINSTER  Volume 01A  Page 443 

Quite likely a Mr Harford was her father
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:22 BST (UK) »
Blimey, this is like a late night BBC2 play..!

David Childs died at birth 1866 and Matilda Haszel, witness at marriage one is Josephs sister.
Strangely enough Richard Haszel married an Alice Brown in 1883 and left their first child Alice born 1883 with her parents. They had three more kids but Alice remained with her parents. Alice herself married a young Italian builder in 1906 called Felix Geninazzi. Hard to picture the way they all lived then but not exactly prim and proper Victorian manners!

I also found a census for Joseph Hazell 1881 living in Luton as a lodger, born 1839, Ipswich and an engineer. Deborah ends up living in Luton too.




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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:29 BST (UK) »
Florence married Ernest Edwin Brown in 1897
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:34 BST (UK) »
Blimey, this is like a late night BBC2 play..!

David Childs died at birth 1866 and Matilda Haszel, witness at marriage one is Josephs sister.
Strangely enough Richard Haszel married an Alice Brown in 1883 and left their first child Alice born 1883 with her parents. They had three more kids but Alice remained with her parents. Alice herself married a young Italian builder in 1906 called Felix Geninazzi. Hard to picture the way they all lived then but not exactly prim and proper Victorian manners!

I also found a census for Joseph Hazell 1881 living in Luton as a lodger, born 1839, Ipswich and an engineer. Deborah ends up living in Luton too.

In 1901 Florence and Edwin have Ethel C Haszell (niece) living with them. Checking GRO Index, she is Ethel Caroline mmn Brown - another child of Richard's ?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:43 BST (UK) »
I have Florences marriage but was unaware of niece, thanks.
Need a lie down after all that, hope none of this runs in the family?

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Re: Bigamy or is it Trigamy?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 12:48 BST (UK) »
Yes we do have Florence. She married in 1918 a Frederick William Marks. She was one of Richards.