James Thain

[Piercej]

Hi,
I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather James Thain Family b. April 1858 Findochty Scotland he immigrated to United States in 1880.  The year his daughter Agnes Thain was born (She is my Grandmother).  Agnes was born illegitimately December 1, 1880 Findochty Scotland, to Betsy Herd.  Betsy d. of Cholera when Agnes was very young (maybe three years old). When Agnes was 17 years old 1897 she immigrated to the USA to live with her father James.

[*Sandra*]

Have you got access to ancestry - someone shows a family tree with james born 1858 son of James Thain born about 1834 - Findochty, Banffshire, Scotland died 1869 - Findochty, Banffshire, Scotland.
(No source given) and Mary Forbes 1834–1916 born  May 1834 - Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland passed away 2 April 1916 - Three Hills, Kneehill, Alberta.
One tree does note - James Thain - Gunshot wound of thorax & abdomen

marriage - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT25-1BZ

FIND A GRAVE

Mary Forbes Thain (with photograph)

   
burial - Mount Davis Cemetery Three Hills, Strathmore Census Division, Alberta.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145718689


Mary was born Mary Forbes in Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland in 1834 to unknown parents. She married James Thain in 1854. James Thain was born in Scotland in 1834 and died young at 35 in 1869 leaving Mary a widow with seven children. In 1888 at the age of 54 she immigrated first to North Dakota, USA then in 1903 to the Three Hills area of Alberta. Her two sons William and Henry each took up homestead properties located on the north side of what is now known as Keivers Lake. Inscription on her stone says that she lived 84 years, 10 months, 13 days.


Sandra

Note :- Scotlands People do show a death record for a James Thain in 1869

James Thain - aged 35 years - mothers maiden name Smith - 1869 - 164/ 30 - Rathven

Family Search shows the children's births - you do need to register and login but it is free.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01luh/

[*Sandra*]

1861 census Public Hall Rathven Banffshire

Mary Thain 26 Ploughmans Wife.
Ann Thain   6
James Thain 3
Jane Thain   8 Months.

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

1881 Rathven Banffshire

Mary F Thain   46 Worker in fish houses.
Jane Thain   20 Domestic servant.
William Thain   17 Shoe-maker Unemployed.
Henry Thain   13 Scholar.
James Thain   1
Janet Thain   2

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

John Thain (father of James) married Helen Smith 30 June 1831 Rathven,Banff,Scotland.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTL9-H8D

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

1841 census Findochty Bannfshire

John Thain    30 Shoemaker.
Helen Thain 25
James Thain 7 Jane Thain   5 John Thain   2

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Wiki tree with a previous generation - DNA link

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Thain-84

Sandra

[MonicaL]

Just to add to all the info that Sandra has included here. Have you checked whether Agnes' mother, Elizabeth Herd died as you think?

Possibility that she was alive and died in 1916 in Aberdeen.

This was her entry with Agnes at home with family in the 1881 Census. Mother Mary Ritchie likely deceased in 1870:

James Herd 47 fisherman
Margaret Herd 25
Elizabeth Herd 23 b. Findochty
Mary Herd 21
Adam Herd 19
James Herd 14
Agnes Herd 16
Helen Herd 13
Mary Henderson 1
Agnes Thain 3 Months

Monica

[MonicaL]

As Sandra mentioned for the Thain line, there is also further details on Elizabeth Herd on a/try family trees. There is a photo for Elizabeth Herd on the family tree (if you have not seen one of her before). This entry is given for her in 1891:

Alex H Buchan 43 mason's labourer
Jas Buchan 15
Maggie Buchan 13
Juluis Buchan 9
Lizzie Buchan 5
Jane Buchan 3
Hay Buchan 2
Adam H Buchan 5 Months
Elizth Herd 33 housekeeper b. Findochty

Address 36 St Paul St, Aberdeen

She is shown as mother of some of the Buchan children above starting with Lizzie. Lizzie's birth shows on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk under both surnames, Buchan and Herd in 1886 in Aberdeen.

Monica